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eds
10-02-2007, 01:11 PM
Right now in Connecticut we have a very weak Castle Doctrine law. In at least 15 states and perhaps more, a full and complete Castle Doctrine law exists to protect victims from their assailants.

Current CT law states that a person may use physical force to protect himself or a third person, his home or office, or his property (CGS § 53a-23). We need to add more to our law to make our law a full and complete Castle Doctrine law.

We need to add things like:
1. Protection from civil and criminal liability when legally using force.
2. Expand the places in which self-defense can legally be used without retreating to include any place where the victim is a guest, the victims workplace even if the victim is not the owner, and any place where victim has a legal right to be.

Presumption of imminent life threatening danger in CT is a subjective call by a jury. There is nothing in the law that states what this is. We need to spell it out in the law that there is a presumption of a reasonable fear of death or serious injury if an assailant was illegally and forcefully entering a dwelling or occupied vehicle, was in the process of doing so, or removed or was attempting to remove a person against his will. And to include that this act be done upon a victim at any place where that victim may currently and legally be.

Right now in CT if you are out in public, perhaps at a restaurant, you have a duty to retreat from an assailant if attacked and only when you have no way out, are you then allowed to use deadly force against an assailant. You should have been able to stand your ground no matter what if our current law were a full and complete Castle Doctrine law. Today if you choose to defend yourself, your fate as a victim, will be left to a subjective jury. And your assailant can sue you for damages. With the Castle Doctrine this will be avoided and victims will be protected. The subjectiveness of the argument will be removed. It will be black and white.

Write to your state legislature to encourage them to get tough on crime by allowing people to stand their ground and defend themselves against an assailant with deadly force without fear of consequences and without the requirement of retreat.

BillCarson436
10-03-2007, 10:46 AM
Hello...

So, like the employees at Blackwater in Iraq, when threatened, you want
armed citizens to have the right to use " deadly force " ...when threatened
...without legal consequences.

Kinda like the old west.. where everyone carried a gun and took their
argumennts out in the street ? Make every street an OK Corral.

Yeaaaa... I like that. Why shoot for the leg when you can take their
heads off !!! Just like in the video game.

sooooooooooooooo........

Count me in !

I suppose I should run out and buy a shotgun to protect myself from
all these bad guys roaming the streets.

eds
10-03-2007, 05:17 PM
Not even close. Your arguments non-sequitur. First, what happened with Blackwater has nothing to do with this.

Second, taking your argument to the street like the old west also has nothing to do with this. Self-defense is not vigilantism and this law has everything to do with self-defense. Were someone to enter my house illegally, under current law, and threaten your life where your life was in imminent danger of ending, you would have the right to use deadly force. That is how it is today. But the law needs to be expanded as I said.

We should not have to live in fear of defending ourselves. I follow the model set forth by Jesus. Jesus recommended selling your tunic and buying a sword. Jesus said, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. " Luke 22 Once Jesus died there would be no one left to protect the disciples. Love thy enemy does not mean to let them destroy you. Were your dog dying a horrible and painful death, you would kill it because you loved it. When someone attacks you its the same thing. Its not murder its killing. Its done out of love for the person. Just like a dog.

Jesus was a big proponent of self-defense and not living by the sword as in the old west. Self-defense is not living by the sword. Its loving your enemy.

And in CT if you do use self-defense you might be sued civilly by your assailant. Personally that never would dissuade me though having the protection of the law makes it easier.

Would you not defend yourself or your family from death were you to be attacked anywhere at anytime?

eds
12-19-2007, 01:32 PM
A perfect example of castle doctrine in Florida. The story is about a man confronted by two men, one with a knife. The two men were afflicted with road rage and were intent upon doing serious bodily harm to the other man. Well those two men were shot by the other man, a concealed carry permit holder who most certainly would have been stabbed to death. One of the shot men died later.

http://www.local10.com/news/14889339/detail.html

And in Georgia a father defended his family from robbery by standing his ground and defending himself with a handgun.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/14795920/detail.html

Refuse to be a victim! We need a strong Castle Doctrine in CT.