Dr. Petit supports the death penalty

[Jesse Buchanan]

Reported by Amanda Falcone -

- HARTFORD - William A. Petit Jr. and his sister, Johanna Petit-Chapman, support the death penalty and made their views public for the first time Wednesday.

"I think it's what a just and moral society should do," Petit said. -

What is the role of a government in carrying out the death penalty? How do you decide whether the government has the duty to execute murderers?

How much were Dr. Petit's views shaped by his experience?

[catnap]

He's a doctor, I would think under normal circumstances most md's would be against the death penalty, seeing that they are in the business of preserving life.

Dr Petit is clearly being influenced by his personal tragedy, and would like all of us to join him.

[Jim N]

Dr Petit is clearly being influenced by his personal tragedy, and would like all of us to join him.
And you see a problem with that? People are influenced by personal events constantly and want others to join them. His is a good and just cause ridding the world of those who abuse and harm the innocent. More power to him.

[madundertaker]

And you see a problem with that? People are influenced by personal events constantly and want others to join them. His is a good and just cause ridding the world of those who abuse and harm the innocent. More power to him.

Bravo to Dr. Petit! I for one do not my tax money to pay for the two scumbags that killed his family. Remember the old West? Public lynching at the gallows! As an undertaker, I would love to get my hands on these two pigs after they are put to death. I have plans for them!

[Born&raised]

I have resevations about the death penalty. For me it is not an ethical or moral issue. The problem I have is being 100% sure we are executing a guilty person. One innocent person put to death by the state is too many. As long as we are 100% sure of a persons guilt, I support using the death penalty.


As for the two men that decided to give Dr. Pe**** family the death penalty, they should have been put to death six months ago. They are guilty, they are human garbage, it is time for them to go. I support the death penalty in their case. I want to know what they were doing out on the streets in the first place. They both had lengthy criminal records.

Regards,
E

[jma]

Mr. Petit feels it's what a "moral & just society" should do. Would the outraged citizens of Cheshire feel the same way if the victims were from a low-income family living in the projects?

[Born&raised]

Please expound JMH I would like to try understand your point.

Regards,
E

[Eastside Bill]

I have resevations about the death penalty. For me it is not an ethical or moral issue. The problem I have is being 100% sure we are executing a guilty person. One innocent person put to death by the state is too many. As long as we are 100% sure of a persons guilt, I support using the death penalty.

E

I agree with what you say about needing to be 100% sure and one innocent person being put to death is one too many. However, I disagree that this is not an ethical or moral problem. Since when is the taking of life not an ethical or moral problem?

[Eastside Bill]

Bravo to Dr. Petit! I for one do not my tax money to pay for the two scumbags that killed his family. Remember the old West? Public lynching at the gallows! As an undertaker, I would love to get my hands on these two pigs after they are put to death. I have plans for them!

This is a really disturbing posting.

[okgoagain]

This is a really disturbing posting.


he works at Ferry funeral home- be wary of putting your loved ones in their hands. he's a sick man.

[jma]

Please expound JMH I would like to try understand your point.

Regards,
E

I understand it was a horrible, shocking crime. What bothers me is that if this crime occurred anywhere other than Cheshire, it wouldn't get half the media attention or political activity. Honestly, if this happened to a low-income black family from Bridgeport, would People magazine have it on the front cover? Would people be screaming for a 3 strikes law? Maybe I'm wrong, and don't give people enough credit. :confused:

[okgoagain]

I understand it was a horrible, shocking crime. What bothers me is that if this crime occurred anywhere other than Cheshire, it wouldn't get half the media attention or political activity. Honestly, if this happened to a low-income black family from Bridgeport, would People magazine have it on the front cover? Would people be screaming for a 3 strikes law? Maybe I'm wrong, and don't give people enough credit. :confused:


If he wasn't so picturesque and long haired handsome he'd get ignored.

[okgoagain]

I understand it was a horrible, shocking crime. What bothers me is that if this crime occurred anywhere other than Cheshire, it wouldn't get half the media attention or political activity. Honestly, if this happened to a low-income black family from Bridgeport, would People magazine have it on the front cover? Would people be screaming for a 3 strikes law? Maybe I'm wrong, and don't give people enough credit. :confused:


If he wasn't so picturesque and long haired handsome he'd get ignored.

[Born&raised]

Jma I got you. Unfortunately I think you are right. People hear about it happening in Bridgeport and it is just another day. I think the people in Bridgeport might scream about it. I think the difference in this case in Cheshire is who will listen to the screaming. It is pretty sad no matter where it happens or whom it happens to.

Eastside,

I stated that it is not an ethical or moral issue to ME. I understand that the reason it is controversial is that it is definitely a moral or ethical question to quite a few other Americans. People say it is not a deterrent; I just can't seem to get my head wrapped around that. There is no way to tell if the Cheshire case might have ended differently if the criminals knew that they might be put to death if they got caught. Maybe they would have done what they did anyway. There is no way to tell I guess. As I stated earlier, I am on the fence when it comes to this issue. I just may not have enough faith in the system for them to get it right every time they want to sentence someone to death. As for the two murderers in the Cheshire case.........I think they deserve it.

Regards,
E

[luckymama13]

As someone who knew one of the Petit girls and the type of family that she came from, we should be honored that Dr. Petit voiced his own opinion rather than what was scripted for him. As for whether or not this incident had happened in Bridgeport, there is a major difference I believe. In Bridgeport, the city would have been in upheavel for a few days and then I believe they would have avenged the crime, the citizens themselves. Maybe I'm wrong but it always seems that inner cities will take matters into their own hands, kind of like in the old west, rather than waiting for the law and the appeals processes to run out. Bravo Dr. Petit, after what they did to your family you have every right to want them punished to the fullest extend of the law. No one should have to suffer the way your beautiful woman did.

[Eastside Bill]

he works at Ferry funeral home- be wary of putting your loved ones in their hands. he's a sick man.

Thanks. That was a really creepy post and I now know that is a funeral home I won't be using.

[Chriss P]

Anyone who committs a crime as such are probably so tormented inside they dont want to live anyways. We would be doing these criminals a favor by putting them out of their misery. And if they were not tormented, it would show they have no remorse or inner guilt and would deserve the death penalty anyways.

If my mind ever convinced me to do committ a crime as such, please someone, club me over the head and put me out of my misery. I just can't imagine how the human mind could create such an action and scientists are now looking to genetics for answers. How someone can go on and lead a non-tormented life after a murder is beyond me.

[okgoagain]

Anyone who committs a crime as such are probably so tormented inside they dont want to live anyways. We would be doing these criminals a favor by putting them out of their misery. And if they were not tormented, it would show they have no remorse or inner guilt and would deserve the death penalty anyways.

If my mind ever convinced me to do committ a crime as such, please someone, club me over the head and put me out of my misery. I just can't imagine how the human mind could create such an action and scientists are now looking to genetics for answers. How someone can go on and lead a non-tormented life after a murder is beyond me.


c'mon- tell me you've never made a mental list of the ten people you could kill if you'd never get caught?

[Meridenborn]

I support the death penalty. I just wish they would use it more often in this state.

[okgoagain]

I support the death penalty for the war crimes committed by little george and cheney and their gang. A Nerumberg style trial is in order- hang them all.

[Chriss P]

c'mon- tell me you've never made a mental list of the ten people you could kill if you'd never get caught?

Yea!! anyone who breaks down my door or tries to victimize me may get a surprise or two.

[okgoagain]

Yea!! anyone who breaks down my door or tries to victimize me may get a surprise or two.


maybe you should move to cheshire and help with their murder problems

[jackie]

He's a doctor, I would think under normal circumstances most md's would be against the death penalty, seeing that they are in the business of preserving life.

Dr Petit is clearly being influenced by his personal tragedy, and would like all of us to join him.
I argue that this man is not the same after losing his wife & two daughters. He has allowed this tragedy to control & ruin his character. There are few choices once one is beaten and he choose to fight back the only legal way how too. The problem with all this is: With the prosecution on his side, they have rejected the defense's motion to a guilty plead in exchange for life in prison. Secondly, it will cost the state of CT tons of money & time, time which has created criticism & blame on the defense for taking to long to start the trials. Then there's month's, if not years, of court dates, appeals, reversals, besides the harmful affects on the family members. His life will be on hold for years.
Whereas, if the prosecution accepted the guilty plead, it would have been over. Lastly, since there will be two separate trials, Komisarjevsky is in better light for his cooperation with police and the investigation. JK is known to tell the truth about his crimes, which doesn't excuse him. If evidence proves or if the jury believes, he didn't lite the match that caused the Petit woman to die, he has a chance to aviod the death penalty, although he seems guilty of every other felony count & would spend the rest of his day in prison without the possiblity of parole.
The jury pool should reflect the populous and not just a segrated group who don't have a problem with the death penalty. Punishment = Justice. Justice doesn't = killing.

[jackie]

He's a doctor, I would think under normal circumstances most md's would be against the death penalty, seeing that they are in the business of preserving life.

Dr Petit is clearly being influenced by his personal tragedy, and would like all of us to join him.
I agree, that this man is not the same after losing his wife & two daughters. He has allowed this tragedy to control & ruin his character. There are few choices when beaten and he choose to fight back legally.
The problem with all this is: With the prosecution on his side, they have rejected the defense's motion to a guilty plead in exchange for life in prison. Secondly, it will cost the state of CT tons of money & time, time which has created criticism & blame on the defense for taking to long to start the trials. Then there's month's, if not years, of court dates, appeals, reversals, besides the harmful affects on the family members. His life will be on hold for years.
Whereas, if the prosecution accepted the guilty plead, it would have been over.
Lastly, since there will be two separate trials, Komisarjevsky is in better light for his cooperation with police and the investigation. JK is known to tell the truth about his crimes, which doesn't excuse him. If evidence proves or if the jury believes, he didn't lite the match that caused the Petit woman to die, he has a chance to aviod the death penalty, although he seems guilty of every other felony count & would spend the rest of his day in prison without the possiblity of parole.
The jury pool should reflect the populous and not just a segrated group who don't have a problem with the death penalty. Punishment = Justice. Justice doesn't = killing.

[jackie]

He's a doctor, I would think under normal circumstances most md's would be against the death penalty, seeing that they are in the business of preserving life.

Dr Petit is clearly being influenced by his personal tragedy, and would like all of us to join him.
I agree, that this man is not the same after losing his wife & two daughters. He has allowed this tragedy to control & ruin his character. There are few choices when beaten and he choose to fight back legally.
The problem with all this is: With the prosecution on his side, they have rejected the defense's guilty plead in exchange for life in prison. Secondly, it will cost the state of CT tons of money & time, time which has created criticism & blame on the defense for delays. Then there is month's, if not years, of court dates, appeals, reversals, besides the harmful affects on the family members. His life will be on hold for years. Whereas, if the prosecution accepted the guilty plead, it would have been over. Vindictiveness, hatred and bittereness has taken it's place in his soul & perhaps rightfully so.
Lastly, since there will be two separate trials, Komisarjevsky is in better light for his cooperation with police and the investigation. JK is known to tell the truth about his crimes, which doesn't excuse him. If evidence proves or if the jury believes, he didn't lite the match that caused the Petit woman to die, he has a chance to aviod the death penalty, although he seems guilty of every other felony count & will spend the rest of his days in prison without the possiblity of parole.
The jury pool should reflect the populous and not just a segrated group who don't have a problem with the death penalty. Punishment = Justice. Justice doesn't = killing. We are not barbarians nor should execute primitive feelings as a civilized society. The mentally ill or criminally insane should be studied to help us understand why and what causes them to be so sick.

[don'tcareattitude]

oh, you mean perform experiments on them- say, shock their genitals with a car battery? Maybe a nice waterboarding? How about we take out organs or maybe add a couple?

Crazy is crazy- but when a crazy person kills we should not coddle them. You seem to be very familiar with the young killer in the cheshire trial. Do you know him? How do you know he tells the truth about his crimes? perhaps he's so criminal that he is also an expert liar.

If I were the doctor I'd spend some of my money to get real justice for those two. He's already broken, what harm would be done if he got some revenge?

or is someone going to claim that the deaths were part of gods great plan.

[don'tcareattitude]

so, talk among yourselves

[jackie]

Dr. Petit may not even be practicing since his family was murdered. He's anger, want revenge and forgetting his wide & daughters affirmed conviction against the death penalty.

[jackie]

maybe you should move to cheshire and help with their murder problems
This type of criminal activity has exploded into the suburbs of CT. It's just not Cheshire. Every week there seems to be a home invasions. Don't even think that Cheshire is all that. It's under a dark cloud created by a small group of vigilantes. They control what people can read, say and think. They censored the new book "In the Middle of the Night" because one of the arrested had the opportunity to be interviewed by the author to tell his side of the story. Meanwhile the first book written about this "Murder in CT" didn't concern the group. Also, there's a constant reminder of this murder by a candle light vigil/fundraiser yearly around Christmas & New years. It's quite scary here in Cheshire. So, if visiting Cheshire, especially coffee shops or resturants, don't talk about the murders or criminals.

[jackie]

maybe you should move to cheshire and help with their murder problems
This type of criminal activity has exploded into the suburbs of CT. It's just not Cheshire. Every week there seems to be a home invasions. Don't even think that Cheshire is all that. It's under a dark cloud created by a small group of vigilantes. They control what people can read, say and think. They censored the new book "In the Middle of the Night" because one of the arrested had the opportunity to be interviewed by the author to tell his side of the story. Meanwhile the first book written about this "Murder in CT" didn't concern the group. Also, there's a constant reminder of this murder by a candle light vigil/fundraiser yearly around Christmas & New years. It's quite scary here in Cheshire. So, if visiting Cheshire, especially coffee shops or resturants, don't talk about the murders or criminals.

[Modica]

This type of criminal activity has exploded into the suburbs of CT. It's just not Cheshire. Every week there seems to be a home invasions. Don't even think that Cheshire is all that. It's under a dark cloud created by a small group of vigilantes. They control what people can read, say and think. They censored the new book "In the Middle of the Night" because one of the arrested had the opportunity to be interviewed by the author to tell his side of the story. Meanwhile the first book written about this "Murder in CT" didn't concern the group. Also, there's a constant reminder of this murder by a candle light vigil/fundraiser yearly around Christmas & New years. It's quite scary here in Cheshire. So, if visiting Cheshire, especially coffee shops or resturants, don't talk about the murders or criminals.
I don't know if this type of crimminal activity is happening as much as the media likes to say it is. If you listen to the local news you should stay in your house and never leave. They like to sensationalize everything, even that big show(3 inches) that shut the state down last week.

[factchecker]

It's under a dark cloud created by a small group of vigilantes. They control what people can read, say and think. They censored the new book "In the Middle of the Night" because one of the arrested had the opportunity to be interviewed by the author to tell his side of the story.

Um, just a point to make- they TRIED and are STILL trying to keep the book from the library. However, there are copies currently in circulation- still working the way through the holds list as I understand it.

[BillCarson436]

Hello....

Who cares.... :confused:

There's a writer selected for the jury who will be putting out his book
after the trial is over . Will that book be banned as well ?

As for Petit being for the death panalty .... that's his opinion and his
right to feel that way. Not everybody agrees.... so what else is new ?

H'e most likely pro - abortion as well. Murder... is murder... is murder.

[flatrat]

Hello....

Who cares.... :confused:

There's a writer selected for the jury who will be putting out his book
after the trial is over . Will that book be banned as well ?

As for Petit being for the death panalty .... that's his opinion and his
right to feel that way. Not everybody agrees.... so what else is new ?

H'e most likely pro - abortion as well. Murder... is murder... is murder.

I wonder how may lives would have turned out differently if Hayes mom had had an abortion way back when.

Or Charlie Manson's mom. Or ted Bundy's mom. Or Jeffrey Dahmner's mom.

[Modica]

Hello....

Who cares.... :confused:

There's a writer selected for the jury who will be putting out his book
after the trial is over . Will that book be banned as well ?

As for Petit being for the death panalty .... that's his opinion and his
right to feel that way. Not everybody agrees.... so what else is new ?

H'e most likely pro - abortion as well. Murder... is murder... is murder.
Murder is murder Bill, but rape, torture and killing people with fully developed senses is another thing. The two are not to be compared.

[jackie]

There are a lot of things that are not moral & just in CT, let alone America. Religion is a freedom we all have and most of our laws are based on the moral code of the 10 commandments, which have been under attack bc it is a Christian belief. So, then what religion allows these moral codes to be worthless? God has been, too! But is God a religion? Before convicting or killing, a trial needs to take place. Evidence, facts, reasonable doubt, etc. If JK's truth about this home invasion is believed, as he had told the truth before in 2002 and with a his 16 page report & cooperation with the Cheshire P.D., he didn't intend to kill Dr. Petit nor murdered him. He didn't lite the fire that killed the daughter with smoke inhalation or strangled Mrs. Petit. So then, he is not guilty of murder or arson. But, is of everything else.
Is it just to kill a criminal that hadn't committed murder? Not that he is innocent of a lesser charge.
Not all believe in the death penalty bc of morals. So to say moral & just, doesn't reflect all people. Ethically it must apply to all to be just.:eek:

[jackie]

Moral & Just only applies if it encompasses all the people and not all people morally believe in the death penalty. To be just the facts, evidence, etc. has to be considered before a convictions. It the facts & evidence proves JK didn't start the fire, then he's not guilty of the charge of murder. So why kill a man if he hadn't killed anyone?:eek:

[Jim N]

Moral & Just only applies if it encompasses all the people and not all people morally believe in the death penalty. To be just the facts, evidence, etc. has to be considered before a convictions. It the facts & evidence proves JK didn't start the fire, then he's not guilty of the charge of murder. So why kill a man if he hadn't killed anyone?:eek:
The cops should have just shot them down as they left the house. Due process caught in the comission of the crime.

[don'tcareattitude]

The cops should have just shot them down as they left the house. Due process caught in the comission of the crime.


Jim- you are correct. I've heard more than one murdin cop say the same thing. Short little internal affairs investigation, a week or two off with pay for the cop (hero) and all is over.
Until then, the cheshire cops were ready for a violation like "failure to have one's izod collar up in back" or "negligent lawn care".

[BillCarson436]

Hello...

Gee ... I wonder how YOUR lives would have turned out if your mother opted
for an abortion.

Guess we wouldn't be discussing that one would we. ;)

To use abortion as a means of undoing fate is pretty lame.

[jackie]

It seems that Mr. Petit is suffering more each day. Recently, Hayes's, Atty.Ullmann, & Judge Blues are in agreement that the trial process cannot continue while Hayes is living under conditions of sleep deprivationand & his medicine not being given, which is causing Hayes more mental anguish. A scheduled hearing date to hear sworn testimony & evidence has been set.

Mr. Petit spoke to reporters outside the court. He seems to think that Ullmann & others believe it was OK what Hayes did to his family, but not OK for Hayes being tormented by lights being left on in the cell 24/7! Mr. Petit really does need help and may not be able to endure the injustice he feels.

Here in Cheshire, there are those who would do everything to support Dr. Petit's wishes in seeing the accused put to death rather than life in prison. But, some Cheshirites think others have gone to far by denying the right of the local library to carry a book written about this murder, which includes statements from one of the accused, to the state not accepting a guilty plead, as prolonging Mr. Petit's agony.:eek:

[BillCarson436]

Hello...

Looking at the before ... and after pics of Haye's, I think I'll market a new
weight loss progran. Included will be a few high intensity lights with
an attachment for ones bed board... and wollen mitts so one can't hold
eating utensils. Brilliant ... if this is not deemed torture ... then I can certainly market it !!

Who would have thought that depriving oneself of sleep and proper
eating could produce results that will have us fatties looking like Mario
Lopez and Twiggy in a few weeks !!!

I'll even include a few Hard Rock CD's to insure endless sleepless nights !!!!