Get a real Conservation Commission

[Meridenborn]

Southington needs a real Conservation Commission, not a glorified Inland/Wetlands Commission, which in reality is what it is. Remember when they were the only Conservation Commission out of 19 others to refuse to sign the Metacomet Ridge Conservation Compact 10 years ago? They are so conservative in Southington. Weird place.

[Meridenborn]

Southington needs a real Conservation Commission, not a glorified Inland/Wetlands Commission, which in reality is what it is. Remember when they were the only Conservation Commission out of 19 others to refuse to sign the Metacomet Ridge Conservation Compact 10 years ago? They are so conservative in Southington. Weird place.

I guess Southington must agree about their lame Conservation Commission. Either that, or their all in a coma over there over the Daley controversy.

[alwaysright]

southington's schools put out good sports teams, but judging from their talk here, do not teach writing. Maybe they just do not bother with RJ though.....

[Born&raised]

What was the result? What is the problem with Southington not signing the compact? What if they did not agree with the compact? Have you posted the reasons why Southinton decided not to sign it? Have you been beating a dead horse for 10 years. Has the world stopped spinning, or only your (small) world? What is your real problem with Southington? I like Southington. That is why I live here. The schools rank among the highest in the state, the crime is low, the taxes are reasonable. The people are generally friendly, come on over and see for your self. You may like it! as long as you leave your attitude at the town line.

Only the warmest regards,
E

[Meridenborn]

What was the result? What is the problem with Southington not signing the compact? What if they did not agree with the compact? Have you posted the reasons why Southinton decided not to sign it? Have you been beating a dead horse for 10 years. Has the world stopped spinning, or only your (small) world? What is your real problem with Southington? I like Southington. That is why I live here. The schools rank among the highest in the state, the crime is low, the taxes are reasonable. The people are generally friendly, come on over and see for your self. You may like it! as long as you leave your attitude at the town line.

Only the warmest regards,
E

Eighteen out of nineteen conservation commission's from Suffield to Guilford signed the Metacomet Ridge Conservation Compact in 1998. Only your conservation commission did not. They never formally responded either way or gave a valid reason for not signing.

[Modica]

Southington has way out of control development. They OK'd a Rite Aid on Queen st. meanwhile Rite Aid is one of the ten corporations that could possibly go out of business in 2009. They also let Lowes build a store when there are all ready two Home Depots in town. Great planning.

[Born&raised]

Meriden born.........you did not, or cannot answer my first question. What was the result? Has the ridge suffered in any way because Southington did not hop on board?

Modica, you are right in a small sense. Residential development exploded and has the potential to take a toll on our schools. If it has not already.

There was an abundance of residentially zoned property that was not previously developed that was sold to developers. As the market moved upward, the developers operated within the zoning regulations, and developed large pieces very quickly. The bottom line is people want to live here. We have allot to offer as a town. What does your town have to offer that mine does not? If you ask me the same question I have a long list.

You are wrong in a very large sense with regards to the large commercial development that has taken place. Commercial and industrial development provides the best bang for the buck when it comes to tax revenue. We will collect millions in tax revenue as a result. It obviously has to be done in a careful manner, but I think at this point it is the best way to go. Can you see a downside to this type of development? I think it is the best way to keep the mil rate under control. It helps all our residents, but especially our lower income families and older residents with fixed incomes afford the taxes they have to pay. The monies saved can be used to continue to maintain there properties, buy new cars, (that we can tax) send children to college, and so on and so on.

In my opinion our town planner and past zoning boards have been too conservative in their approach to commercial development. In my opinion, only in the past ten years or so has the town council and the zoning board realized the benefits of this type of development over residential development. Come down town and see for yourself. You can even come after dark. Will you venture into down town in Meriden after dark? Not me.

Warm regards,
E

[Meridenborn]

Meriden born.........you did not, or cannot answer my first question. What was the result? Has the ridge suffered in any way because Southington did not hop on board?

Modica, you are right in a small sense. Residential development exploded and has the potential to take a toll on our schools. If it has not already.

There was an abundance of residentially zoned property that was not previously developed that was sold to developers. As the market moved upward, the developers operated within the zoning regulations, and developed large pieces very quickly. The bottom line is people want to live here. We have allot to offer as a town. What does your town have to offer that mine does not? If you ask me the same question I have a long list.

You are wrong in a very large sense with regards to the large commercial development that has taken place. Commercial and industrial development provides the best bang for the buck when it comes to tax revenue. We will collect millions in tax revenue as a result. It obviously has to be done in a careful manner, but I think at this point it is the best way to go. Can you see a downside to this type of development? I think it is the best way to keep the mil rate under control. It helps all our residents, but especially our lower income families and older residents with fixed incomes afford the taxes they have to pay. The monies saved can be used to continue to maintain there properties, buy new cars, (that we can tax) send children to college, and so on and so on.

In my opinion our town planner and past zoning boards have been too conservative in their approach to commercial development. In my opinion, only in the past ten years or so has the town council and the zoning board realized the benefits of this type of development over residential development. Come down town and see for yourself. You can even come after dark. Will you venture into down town in Meriden after dark? Not me.

Warm regards,
E

The main reason the Metacomet Ridge in Southington did not suffer development was because your town adopted Ridgeline Protection Zoning a couple of years after it refused to sign the Metacomet Ridge Conservation Compact. Now bear in mind that your town was provided several versions of Ridgeline Protection Zoning by conservationists from Meriden. That was never acknowledged by Southington officials. In addition, The Compact was largely a planning tool---a template if you will--- to guide a town on ridgeline conservation. Your town spurned it saying it was a "taking" , which was untrue. Then ironically, Southington later adopted trap-rock ridge protection zoning which actually does regulate land use.
after much criticism in the press over the Metacomet Compact fiasco.
It actually worked out well to have your conservation commission refuse to consider the Compact. By ignoring it, your conservation commission brought much publicity to it through numerous articles and op-ed pieces from the R-J and the Courant urging Southington to sign. Your commission looked foolish and stubborn.
Thanks to the Southington Conservation Commission for allowing itself to be a whipping boy for a decade. The Metacomet Ridge thanks you!

[Modica]

Meriden born.........you did not, or cannot answer my first question. What was the result? Has the ridge suffered in any way because Southington did not hop on board?

Modica, you are right in a small sense. Residential development exploded and has the potential to take a toll on our schools. If it has not already.

There was an abundance of residentially zoned property that was not previously developed that was sold to developers. As the market moved upward, the developers operated within the zoning regulations, and developed large pieces very quickly. The bottom line is people want to live here. We have allot to offer as a town. What does your town have to offer that mine does not? If you ask me the same question I have a long list.

You are wrong in a very large sense with regards to the large commercial development that has taken place. Commercial and industrial development provides the best bang for the buck when it comes to tax revenue. We will collect millions in tax revenue as a result. It obviously has to be done in a careful manner, but I think at this point it is the best way to go. Can you see a downside to this type of development? I think it is the best way to keep the mil rate under control. It helps all our residents, but especially our lower income families and older residents with fixed incomes afford the taxes they have to pay. The monies saved can be used to continue to maintain there properties, buy new cars, (that we can tax) send children to college, and so on and so on.

In my opinion our town planner and past zoning boards have been too conservative in their approach to commercial development. In my opinion, only in the past ten years or so has the town council and the zoning board realized the benefits of this type of development over residential development. Come down town and see for yourself. You can even come after dark. Will you venture into down town in Meriden after dark? Not me.

Warm regards,
E
There are many people who live in Southington who are not happy with the extreme development. Just ask the people who live along West st. There is not enough people or money in this town to support all the commercial development. And once businesses start folding because there is too much in the town, who will be blamed for it? Yeah, people do love Southington, but how much longer will people love it when its small town charm is lost.

[Born&raised]

It is always not in my backyard. If we did not develop to bolster the tax base the same people would complain about rising taxes. If they didn't want the land to be developed they should have bought it. All the land up there was for sale for a very long time. Maybe the open space committee should have gone after it: ~( Then the mil rate would really go through the roof. How much land can the town own? It is, what it is. The cost of living will always go up. The trick is to have the mil rate increase at or below the same rate of inflation. The town officials have to act responsibly for the greater good of the town as a whole. If they cater to a few, we go nowhere.

Regards,
E

[Meridenborn]

The main reason the Metacomet Ridge in Southington did not suffer development was because your town adopted Ridgeline Protection Zoning a couple of years after it refused to sign the Metacomet Ridge Conservation Compact. Now bear in mind that your town was provided several versions of Ridgeline Protection Zoning by conservationists from Meriden. That was never acknowledged by Southington officials. In addition, The Compact was largely a planning tool---a template if you will--- to guide a town on ridgeline conservation. Your town spurned it saying it was a "taking" , which was untrue. Then ironically, Southington later adopted trap-rock ridge protection zoning which actually does regulate land use.
after much criticism in the press over the Metacomet Compact fiasco.
It actually worked out well to have your conservation commission refuse to consider the Compact. By ignoring it, your conservation commission brought much publicity to it through numerous articles and op-ed pieces from the R-J and the Courant urging Southington to sign. Your commission looked foolish and stubborn.
Thanks to the Southington Conservation Commission for allowing itself to be a whipping boy for a decade. The Metacomet Ridge thanks you!

Hello Born and raised,

No response to the above so you must agree.

[Born&raised]

There is nothing to agree or disagree with in your post. I have no knowledge of what went on. You obviously do. It took a few posts for you to answer my first questions to you. If I am reading your posts correctly it seems the outcome was favorable for you and all that are concerned about the ridge. I guess your problem is the path that was taken by Southington to get there.

So what is the problem?

Sometimes my dog barks just to hear itself bark. I have learned to accept it, but I will never understand it.

Warmest,
E

[Modica]

There is nothing to agree or disagree with in your post. I have no knowledge of what went on. You obviously do. It took a few posts for you to answer my first questions to you. If I am reading your posts correctly it seems the outcome was favorable for you and all that are concerned about the ridge. I guess your problem is the path that was taken by Southington to get there.

So what is the problem?

Sometimes my dog barks just to hear itself bark. I have learned to accept it, but I will never understand it.

Warmest,
E
Taxes saved will be rising in the near future as the strain of over development is felt on schools, services and roads. That is why there is a planning and zoning commission so that development is controlled so that the way of life for residents is not compromised. There is no town in the area that has such out of control development as Southington does. Seems that there is something going on here other than providing the residents with a lower tax rate.

[Born&raised]

What else would be going on? If you have something to say………… say it. But you better be prepared to prove it. If you can't, you should not elude or suggest something that you can't prove. As for strain................you really don't read my posts carefully enough. COMMERCIAL development puts no strain on the schools that is why it is desirable. The new development on West Street came with modifications to not only west street but also I-84 by the developer. Both are state roads. We have very little responsibility to maintain those roads as a town. The zoning board took years to approve the plan. They almost lost the developer. You are just ranting for the sake of ranting...you don't have a valid argument. You post in criticism, not out of concern. I am done on this subject.

E

[Meridenborn]

There is nothing to agree or disagree with in your post. I have no knowledge of what went on. You obviously do. It took a few posts for you to answer my first questions to you. If I am reading your posts correctly it seems the outcome was favorable for you and all that are concerned about the ridge. I guess your problem is the path that was taken by Southington to get there.

So what is the problem?

Sometimes my dog barks just to hear itself bark. I have learned to accept it, but I will never understand it.

Warmest,
E

Are you comparing me to your dog?

[Modica]

What else would be going on? If you have something to say………… say it. But you better be prepared to prove it. If you can't, you should not elude or suggest something that you can't prove. As for strain................you really don't read my posts carefully enough. COMMERCIAL development puts no strain on the schools that is why it is desirable. The new development on West Street came with modifications to not only west street but also I-84 by the developer. Both are state roads. We have very little responsibility to maintain those roads as a town. The zoning board took years to approve the plan. They almost lost the developer. You are just ranting for the sake of ranting...you don't have a valid argument. You post in criticism, not out of concern. I am done on this subject.

E
Must be on the board and obviously has something to hide. Why so upset? People have been asking these questions of public officials for years. If there is no truth to it...then why do you make such a big deal about it. Elected officials are not gods and must always be subject to scrutiny. There are many people in Southington who have asked the same questions as I have, and usually get the same angry response. Can't take the heat...get out of the kitchen.

[Meridenborn]

Must be on the board and obviously has something to hide. Why so upset? People have been asking these questions of public officials for years. If there is no truth to it...then why do you make such a big deal about it. Elected officials are not gods and must always be subject to scrutiny. There are many people in Southington who have asked the same questions as I have, and usually get the same angry response. Can't take the heat...get out of the kitchen.

Modica, he/she seems very haughty. Compared me to a dog, too. Perhaps I should take a bite next time and give em' rabies?

[Modica]

Modica, he/she seems very haughty. Compared me to a dog, too. Perhaps I should take a bite next time and give em' rabies?
It just peeves me that arrogant people like that are making decisions for all of us in every branch of government. I remember when I was a teen, I worked in this grocery store. Every day around noon this butthole from the town Health Department would drive within inches of our front door and go into the store next door. When I mentioned it to the owner, he told me to forget it because this guy would give us a hard time if we mentioned anything to him. Creating a dangerous situation by blocking an exit, but we were supposed to ignore it. These are the kinds of people we put into office.

[Born&raised]

I would like to give you two some perspective on who you are communicating with. I am not on any of the Southington boards. I am a just a regular guy born and raised in Southington. I have been watching the boards in town for about the last eight years, with great interest. The future of my family requires it. I am very critical of the boards in town when they take actions that warrant criticism. Like most citizens that take an interest, I have a philosophy of my own as to how government should govern. When the actions taken fly in the face of my philosophy I am critical.

I do not have blind faith in government or politicians. I agree that government should be held to a high standard. I also think that citizens should be held to that same standard. The two of you have been running roughshod around these forums for quite some time. I have been watching. You treat it like it is your own living room. You make accusations that I believe you should back up with evidence or you should not make them. There is a difference between opinion and accusation. You two are confused when it comes to the difference. If you have evidence of corruption I want to see it. If it can be proven I am with you. We will get them out of office together.

I like to debate and stay on point. You do not stay on point. You will not concede when you run out of argument. I have lost an argument or two in my time and it is difficult to concede, but you must when you are outdone. You resort to accusations and name-calling. What peeves me is the two of you running rampant over this forum, speaking of certain things that you have very little knowledge of. I am tired of the typical complaining, without offering ideas as to how to fix things. Ideas that will benefit all citizens not a chosen few with special interests.

As for the rabies……………….you ought to get that checked.

With warmest regards,
E

[Modica]

I would like to give you two some perspective on who you are communicating with. I am not on any of the Southington boards. I am a just a regular guy born and raised in Southington. I have been watching the boards in town for about the last eight years, with great interest. The future of my family requires it. I am very critical of the boards in town when they take actions that warrant criticism. Like most citizens that take an interest, I have a philosophy of my own as to how government should govern. When the actions taken fly in the face of my philosophy I am critical.

I do not have blind faith in government or politicians. I agree that government should be held to a high standard. I also think that citizens should be held to that same standard. The two of you have been running roughshod around these forums for quite some time. I have been watching. You treat it like it is your own living room. You make accusations that I believe you should back up with evidence or you should not make them. There is a difference between opinion and accusation. You two are confused when it comes to the difference. If you have evidence of corruption I want to see it. If it can be proven I am with you. We will get them out of office together.

I like to debate and stay on point. You do not stay on point. You will not concede when you run out of argument. I have lost an argument or two in my time and it is difficult to concede, but you must when you are outdone. You resort to accusations and name-calling. What peeves me is the two of you running rampant over this forum, speaking of certain things that you have very little knowledge of. I am tired of the typical complaining, without offering ideas as to how to fix things. Ideas that will benefit all citizens not a chosen few with special interests.

As for the rabies……………….you ought to get that checked.

With warmest regards,
E
Oh and how am I running rampant over this forum? Please explain. There are others also who call names and get even nastier than I. I try to inject some humor and sometimes I may go overboard, but I truly try to keep it as friendly and as fun as possible. I was born and raised in Southington also and I really hate what has happened to a town that I loved growing up. I talk to many people and many old time Southington residents hate what has happened to the town. I have talked to many people who have attended meetings and certain council members talk down to them, make rude comments and there were even a few shouting matches between residents and council members. Anyhow, all these businesses can not survive in this economy, so what will the town be left with...lost revenue and empty buildings. This over-development happened in the late 80's and early 90's and it took much longer for Connecticut towns to recover than it did for the rest of the country. Southington will have a lot of problems in the future unless the over-development of business and homes is done at a slower pace. I know that the town I grew up in is gone and it saddens me.

[Meridenborn]

I would like to give you two some perspective on who you are communicating with. I am not on any of the Southington boards. I am a just a regular guy born and raised in Southington. I have been watching the boards in town for about the last eight years, with great interest. The future of my family requires it. I am very critical of the boards in town when they take actions that warrant criticism. Like most citizens that take an interest, I have a philosophy of my own as to how government should govern. When the actions taken fly in the face of my philosophy I am critical.

I do not have blind faith in government or politicians. I agree that government should be held to a high standard. I also think that citizens should be held to that same standard. The two of you have been running roughshod around these forums for quite some time. I have been watching. You treat it like it is your own living room. You make accusations that I believe you should back up with evidence or you should not make them. There is a difference between opinion and accusation. You two are confused when it comes to the difference. If you have evidence of corruption I want to see it. If it can be proven I am with you. We will get them out of office together.

I like to debate and stay on point. You do not stay on point. You will not concede when you run out of argument. I have lost an argument or two in my time and it is difficult to concede, but you must when you are outdone. You resort to accusations and name-calling. What peeves me is the two of you running rampant over this forum, speaking of certain things that you have very little knowledge of. I am tired of the typical complaining, without offering ideas as to how to fix things. Ideas that will benefit all citizens not a chosen few with special interests.

As for the rabies……………….you ought to get that checked.

With warmest regards,
E

It gladdens me that you are "peeved".
Whenever I see your moniker I shall always remember your "warmest regards"
and how sincere you are.

[Modica]

It gladdens me that you are "peeved".
Whenever I see your moniker I shall always remember your "warmest regards"
and how sincere you are.
Don't worry Meridenborn, my grandfather said, that if people care and take notice of your opinions, that means that there must be some truth to what you are saying.

[Meridenborn]

Don't worry Meridenborn, my grandfather said, that if people care and take notice of your opinions, that means that there must be some truth to what you are saying.

Thanks, Modica. I really don't like this guy and his attitude. Hope he finds himself good company.

[Modica]

In checking my stats on here, I post 2.41 posts per day. Not exactly running rampant on the forums. Well is it born&raised?

[Meridenborn]

In checking my stats on here, I post 2.41 posts per day. Not exactly running rampant on the forums. Well is it born&raised?

I like running rampant, especially if it makes boner-raised purple with anger.

[Meridenborn]

Nice and quiet.

[Born&raised]

It needs to be said again


I would like to give you two some perspective on who you are communicating with. I am not on any of the Southington boards. I am a just a regular guy born and raised in Southington. I have been watching the boards in town for about the last eight years, with great interest. The future of my family requires it. I am very critical of the boards in town when they take actions that warrant criticism. Like most citizens that take an interest, I have a philosophy of my own as to how government should govern. When the actions taken fly in the face of my philosophy I am critical.

I do not have blind faith in government or politicians. I agree that government should be held to a high standard. I also think that citizens should be held to that same standard. The two of you have been running roughshod around these forums for quite some time. I have been watching. You treat it like it is your own living room. You make accusations that I believe you should back up with evidence or you should not make them. There is a difference between opinion and accusation. You two are confused when it comes to the difference. If you have evidence of corruption I want to see it. If it can be proven I am with you. We will get them out of office together.

I like to debate and stay on point. You do not stay on point. You will not concede when you run out of argument. I have lost an argument or two in my time and it is difficult to concede, but you must when you are outdone. You resort to accusations and name-calling. What peeves me is the two of you running rampant over this forum, speaking of certain things that you have very little knowledge of. I am tired of the typical complaining, without offering ideas as to how to fix things. Ideas that will benefit all citizens not a chosen few with special interests.

As for the rabies……………….you ought to get that checked.

With warmest regards,
E

[Modica]

It needs to be said again


I would like to give you two some perspective on who you are communicating with. I am not on any of the Southington boards. I am a just a regular guy born and raised in Southington. I have been watching the boards in town for about the last eight years, with great interest. The future of my family requires it. I am very critical of the boards in town when they take actions that warrant criticism. Like most citizens that take an interest, I have a philosophy of my own as to how government should govern. When the actions taken fly in the face of my philosophy I am critical.

I do not have blind faith in government or politicians. I agree that government should be held to a high standard. I also think that citizens should be held to that same standard. The two of you have been running roughshod around these forums for quite some time. I have been watching. You treat it like it is your own living room. You make accusations that I believe you should back up with evidence or you should not make them. There is a difference between opinion and accusation. You two are confused when it comes to the difference. If you have evidence of corruption I want to see it. If it can be proven I am with you. We will get them out of office together.

I like to debate and stay on point. You do not stay on point. You will not concede when you run out of argument. I have lost an argument or two in my time and it is difficult to concede, but you must when you are outdone. You resort to accusations and name-calling. What peeves me is the two of you running rampant over this forum, speaking of certain things that you have very little knowledge of. I am tired of the typical complaining, without offering ideas as to how to fix things. Ideas that will benefit all citizens not a chosen few with special interests.

As for the rabies……………….you ought to get that checked.

With warmest regards,
E
No one has even commented on this crap in days, but you feel the need to continue with your relentless castigation which seems to cleanse you of your anger in some strange and bizarre way. To post something a second time that you posted days ago seems quite odd. It leads me to believe that you do have some seat on the zoning board, because you just won't let it go. You describe yourself as a fed up Republican, but I get a very strange vibe from you that makes me glad that we are not communicating face-to-face.

[Meridenborn]

It needs to be said again


I would like to give you two some perspective on who you are communicating with. I am not on any of the Southington boards. I am a just a regular guy born and raised in Southington. I have been watching the boards in town for about the last eight years, with great interest. The future of my family requires it. I am very critical of the boards in town when they take actions that warrant criticism. Like most citizens that take an interest, I have a philosophy of my own as to how government should govern. When the actions taken fly in the face of my philosophy I am critical.

I do not have blind faith in government or politicians. I agree that government should be held to a high standard. I also think that citizens should be held to that same standard. The two of you have been running roughshod around these forums for quite some time. I have been watching. You treat it like it is your own living room. You make accusations that I believe you should back up with evidence or you should not make them. There is a difference between opinion and accusation. You two are confused when it comes to the difference. If you have evidence of corruption I want to see it. If it can be proven I am with you. We will get them out of office together.

I like to debate and stay on point. You do not stay on point. You will not concede when you run out of argument. I have lost an argument or two in my time and it is difficult to concede, but you must when you are outdone. You resort to accusations and name-calling. What peeves me is the two of you running rampant over this forum, speaking of certain things that you have very little knowledge of. I am tired of the typical complaining, without offering ideas as to how to fix things. Ideas that will benefit all citizens not a chosen few with special interests.

As for the rabies……………….you ought to get that checked.

With warmest regards,
E

Dude, give it a rest. I get bad vibes from you as well. Why don't we agree not to respond to each other. If you persist, my only response will be to tell you to go f_____ yourself again. I don't like you and don't want to engage in any debate, conversation, dialogue, etc. Goodbye.

[okgoagain]

Dude, give it a rest. I get bad vibes from you as well. Why don't we agree not to respond to each other. If you persist, my only response will be to tell you to go f_____ yourself again. I don't like you and don't want to engage in any debate, conversation, dialogue, etc. Goodbye.


boy=- people get thrown off for being honest, calling a broad a broad of a fool a fool- but F yourself is OK with the moderator? guess it depends on who complains.

[Modica]

boy=- people get thrown off for being honest, calling a broad a broad of a fool a fool- but F yourself is OK with the moderator? guess it depends on who complains.
I thought Meridenborn was telling born&raised to go "fan himself" since born&raised was getting so hot.

[okgoagain]

I thought Meridenborn was telling born&raised to go "fan himself" since born&raised was getting so hot.


titles is at rudy's in new haven tonight-

[Modica]

titles is at rudy's in new haven tonight-
I'll be there.

[okgoagain]

and they'll make another CT appearance at daffodil this year. plus I think you will like bear hands and bottle up& Go. check the website-www.daffodilfest.com for the lineup so far.
maybe I'll see you by the frites..

[Modica]

and they'll make another CT appearance at daffodil this year. plus I think you will like bear hands and bottle up& Go. check the website-www.daffodilfest.com for the lineup so far.
maybe I'll see you by the frites..
Don't eat frites, but will be hanging there. Too nice to stay home.

[okgoagain]

this is so off topic it should rankle a few uptight posters soon. I'm on the loading dock w/a laptop enjoying some early spring sun. Not crazy about that other act w/ titles but hope they are on after.

[Modica]

this is so off topic it should rankle a few uptight posters soon. I'm on the loading dock w/a laptop enjoying some early spring sun. Not crazy about that other act w/ titles but hope they are on after.
It's a hell of a lot better than reading posts from a few (not to offend all of you) cranky Republicans.

[okgoagain]

It's a hell of a lot better than reading posts from a few (not to offend all of you) cranky Republicans.

bunch of depressed crybabies. The dems won so get over it. I think the new pres is doing fine so far. love that he's taxing youy rich folks- sell your heirlomes and try to get maddoff on the phone again. I do not feel soirry for you greedy jerks

[Meridenborn]

I thought Meridenborn was telling born&raised to go "fan himself" since born&raised was getting so hot.

That's correct, "go fan yourself" is what I was trying to communicate. I would never tell somebody to go phuq yourself. That would be wrong.

[Born&raised]

I've been fanning myself all afternoon. It's nice. Thanks for the suggestion. I need to get myself a bigger fan though.

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[Modica]

I've been fanning myself all afternoon. It's nice. Thanks for the suggestion. I need to get myself a bigger fan though.

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it is more than warm in hell. You'll need a bigger fan. Hottest M.