Dems running scared

[Jim N]

Intelligent, well spoken, Commander in Chief of the Alaskan National Guard, took on the oil companies and won windfall taxes, has Russia as a border neighbor and Canada so she understands international politics. Has children and her children have children (let's see how forgiving the christians are on this. Remember let the one without sin cast the first stone or something like that) A real American one who has had to worry about feeding the family worked real jobs as has her husband. These are real Americans, not political images that are usually run by both parties ( and are definitely being run in the #1 job by the Rep. and both jobs by the Dem's). I'm sure she never expected this nor did her family. I like the idea of having someone that I could have had a cup of coffee with or enjoyed an unscripted conversation with, down to earth and not scripted or fake being in a high or highest position in government. Sounds like a real win for the USA. And what experience is really required. Congress makes the laws, State dept handles what passes as diplomacy or foreign policy, all a President or Vice President has to do is follow scripts at affairs. Have enough intelligence to realize they don't know everything and to have experts advise them. It is a great day for America that a REAL AMERICAN is running for this position since I believe the first few elections. After which a political class of supreme and arrogant egotists arose and were crowned the royalty of America by the media (which was and still is controlled by them). This is a big as the French Revolution REAL Americans taking back their country.

[Chriss P]

One concern I have is this statement posted about what she stated:

"Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a "task that is from God."

Im just concerned about religion effecting our foreign policy. I believe the crusades were partially run this way and it was not without hurt feelings lasting centuries.

Im not really into religious fanatics and would tread lightly on the issue were one claims God has sent us to fight in Iraq as many innocent people have died due to our involvement.

We must be careful of taking actions then saying it was God who guided us to these actions especially when hurt has occured.

God has given us free will; and we are the ones responsible for our actions whether right or wrong.

[flatrat]

She and her husband were active in the AIP, advocating seceding from the US. She spoke at their convention.

She procured more "earmarks" for Alaskans per capita than any other state. This actually caused John McCain to complain about her at the time. ( I was against Sara Palin, before I was for her)

She was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it.

She was Chairman of Sen. Ted Stevens (now under indictment) 527 committee.

She advocated burning books in the library while mayor of Wasila. When the librarian refused, she tried to get the librarian fired.

Troopergate. She has hired an attorney and the republicans are trying to delay the report on the investigation until after the election.

Her Reverend at the Wasila Assembly of God is so nutty, he makes Rev Wright look like Billy Graham. His sermons have been removed from the web, as part of the Republican "scrubbing" process, to prevent proper vetting of Palin.

She is against sex education and a woman's right to choose. Her daughter's pregnancy is a "private matter," but no one else's should be. The government should prevent a woman's control over her own womb, by overturning Roe V Wade, according to Palin.

Her speech was all negative and offered nothing in terms of how the Republicans will extract out of our republican produced economic funk.

She described herself as a "pit bull with lipstick." That reminds me of the old phrase "You can put lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig."

And of course, we are not vetting her, we are picking on her.


It's Tough To Be A Republican In 2008

Somehow you have to believe concurrently that:

* Jesus loves you, but shares your deep hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.
* A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all humankind without regulation.
* The United States should get out of the United Nations, but our highest national priority is enforcing U. N. resolutions against Iraq and Iran.
* "Standing Tall for America" means firing your workers and moving their jobs to India.
* Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.
* The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.
* A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense. A president lying about WMD existence to enlist support for an unprovoked, undeclared war and occupation in which thousands of soldiers and hundreds of thousands civilians die, is, somehow, solid "defense" policy in a "War against Terrorism".
* Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins, unless you someday run for governor of California as a Republican.
* If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
* A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, but then demand their cooperation and money.
* Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.
* HMOs and insurance companies make profits and have the interest of the public at heart.
* Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools.
* Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him and Rumsfeld reassured him he was our buddy. A bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him. But, then a bad guy again when Bush junior needed a prop for his re-election campaign as the "war president".
* Iran was a good country when Ford and Rumsfeld and Cheney, along with General Electric, gave them our nuclear technology in the 1970's. Good guys when Cheney did business with them in the 1990's. But, then bad guys when Bush junior needed a prop for his re-election campaign as the "war president".
* Iraq was a good country when Reagan and Rumsfeld gave them our chemical warfare technology in the 1980's. Bad guys when we authorized their overflights to gas their own population, and then good guys, again, when Cheney did business with them. But, then bad guys when Bush junior needed a prop for his re-election campaign as the "war president".
* It is okay that the Bush family's "Carlisle Group" has made millions doing business with the Bin Laden family.
* Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which should include "banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet".
* The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's illegal insider Harken Oil stock trade should be sealed in his Daddy's library, and is none of our business.
* What Bill Clinton or John Kerry did in the 1960s was of vital national interest but Bush & Cheney's drug and alcohol felony arrests in the '80s are irrelevant.
* Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a "spirit of international harmony".
* Affirmative Action is wrong, but it is OK for your Daddy and his friends (here and in Saudi Arabia) to get you to graduate from Yale without studying much; to dodge the draft in the Texas Air National Guard; to bail out your company Harken Oil and the Texas Rangers; to get the Governorship of Texas and then to have the Supreme Court appoint you President of the USA.
* You are a conservative, but it is OK to spend like there is no tomorrow and run up deficits that your grandchildren will have to pay, while at the same refunding as much tax money as possible to rich people who do not need it.

This illogical behavior can take a toll on a healthy mind. So if a friend of yours has been acting a bit dazed and confused lately, be nice: he or she may be a Republican

[RC12L4]

"Boo!!"
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[alwaysright]

ST. PAUL, Minn. - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.

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Some examples:

PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."

THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."

PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate."

THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.

PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."

THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.

Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.

He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.

MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply ... She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.

THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.

MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. ... She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.

THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.

FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."

THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.

FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin."

THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.

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so there.

[Kozi2005]

Think what you like, but the "Dem's" aren't "running scared". Conservative Republicans see things the way the like, as do Democrats, so neither of us are about to change our opinion based on one's perception of the speech. It's the undecided voter who will choose how they want to spend the next 4 to 8 years or even if they want to get out and vote. I know we'll both be there at the polls!

[RC12L4]

There's alwayright frothing at the mouth over a woman who has him scared to death. I have to chuckle.

Reminder: Obama has authored two memoirs but not a single significant law.

[marine1]

great points!
She and her husband were active in the AIP, advocating seceding from the US. She spoke at their convention.

She procured more "earmarks" for Alaskans per capita than any other state. This actually caused John McCain to complain about her at the time. ( I was against Sara Palin, before I was for her)

She was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it.

She was Chairman of Sen. Ted Stevens (now under indictment) 527 committee.

She advocated burning books in the library while mayor of Wasila. When the librarian refused, she tried to get the librarian fired.

Troopergate. She has hired an attorney and the republicans are trying to delay the report on the investigation until after the election.

Her Reverend at the Wasila Assembly of God is so nutty, he makes Rev Wright look like Billy Graham. His sermons have been removed from the web, as part of the Republican "scrubbing" process, to prevent proper vetting of Palin.

She is against sex education and a woman's right to choose. Her daughter's pregnancy is a "private matter," but no one else's should be. The government should prevent a woman's control over her own womb, by overturning Roe V Wade, according to Palin.

Her speech was all negative and offered nothing in terms of how the Republicans will extract out of our republican produced economic funk.

She described herself as a "pit bull with lipstick." That reminds me of the old phrase "You can put lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig."

And of course, we are not vetting her, we are picking on her.


It's Tough To Be A Republican In 2008

Somehow you have to believe concurrently that:

* Jesus loves you, but shares your deep hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.
* A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all humankind without regulation.
* The United States should get out of the United Nations, but our highest national priority is enforcing U. N. resolutions against Iraq and Iran.
* "Standing Tall for America" means firing your workers and moving their jobs to India.
* Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.
* The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.
* A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense. A president lying about WMD existence to enlist support for an unprovoked, undeclared war and occupation in which thousands of soldiers and hundreds of thousands civilians die, is, somehow, solid "defense" policy in a "War against Terrorism".
* Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins, unless you someday run for governor of California as a Republican.
* If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
* A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, but then demand their cooperation and money.
* Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.
* HMOs and insurance companies make profits and have the interest of the public at heart.
* Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools.
* Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him and Rumsfeld reassured him he was our buddy. A bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him. But, then a bad guy again when Bush junior needed a prop for his re-election campaign as the "war president".
* Iran was a good country when Ford and Rumsfeld and Cheney, along with General Electric, gave them our nuclear technology in the 1970's. Good guys when Cheney did business with them in the 1990's. But, then bad guys when Bush junior needed a prop for his re-election campaign as the "war president".
* Iraq was a good country when Reagan and Rumsfeld gave them our chemical warfare technology in the 1980's. Bad guys when we authorized their overflights to gas their own population, and then good guys, again, when Cheney did business with them. But, then bad guys when Bush junior needed a prop for his re-election campaign as the "war president".
* It is okay that the Bush family's "Carlisle Group" has made millions doing business with the Bin Laden family.
* Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which should include "banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet".
* The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's illegal insider Harken Oil stock trade should be sealed in his Daddy's library, and is none of our business.
* What Bill Clinton or John Kerry did in the 1960s was of vital national interest but Bush & Cheney's drug and alcohol felony arrests in the '80s are irrelevant.
* Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a "spirit of international harmony".
* Affirmative Action is wrong, but it is OK for your Daddy and his friends (here and in Saudi Arabia) to get you to graduate from Yale without studying much; to dodge the draft in the Texas Air National Guard; to bail out your company Harken Oil and the Texas Rangers; to get the Governorship of Texas and then to have the Supreme Court appoint you President of the USA.
* You are a conservative, but it is OK to spend like there is no tomorrow and run up deficits that your grandchildren will have to pay, while at the same refunding as much tax money as possible to rich people who do not need it.

This illogical behavior can take a toll on a healthy mind. So if a friend of yours has been acting a bit dazed and confused lately, be nice: he or she may be a Republican