Sen. John McCain picks Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate

[RC12L4]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080829/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_mccain_veepstakes

"Wow far out man, the Obama speech was groovy but that Palin chick is dreamy, anymore pics man?"
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[marine1]

:) I am a democrat, but Sarah's the type of person I would like to have a glass of red wine with on a cold Alaska night. It sounds sexist, but it's what I think. Boy it beats looking at Dick Cheney for four years. I think she is a better shot than Dick, with all those grizzly bears and stuff in Alaska.

[rapuda]

It's pretty obvious this pick was made to grab all the disgruntled Clinton supporters. It may also help with the independents. I think this choice will backfire for McCain due to her age and gender. The hard right will want someone more conservative and also whether they admit it or not, they'd rather have a male vp.

McCain has pointed out how young and inexperienced Obama is, and then he chooses someone younger than Obama with little experience herself. I think the conservative base will dislike this choice.

[RC12L4]

It's pretty obvious this pick was made to grab all the disgruntled Clinton supporters. It may also help with the independents. I think this choice will backfire for McCain due to her age and gender. The hard right will want someone more conservative and also whether they admit it or not, they'd rather have a male vp.

McCain has pointed out how young and inexperienced Obama is, and then he chooses someone younger than Obama with little experience herself. I think the conservative base will dislike this choice.

The conservative base is going to vote for McCain no matter who's in the VP slot.

[Deb]

Don't mean this in a bad way but McCain's got some age on him. Is she someone you would want to be the President? I think he made a mistake. This was the big question asked when Mondale chose Ferraro back in the 80's. Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative, I think if McCain wins we should all light a candle that he remains in good health with this choice.

[Deb]

Just read where Palin is under investigation for abuse of power as Governor of Alaska. The investigation will take about 3 months. Brilliant move McCain.
Let's see...Obama chooses Biden for VP running mate...
McCain chooses Palin. Who's judgement is better?
Did McCain really think that women would consider Palin an equal to Clinton?

[john12774]

I think it was a WEAK choice. Go OBAMA!!!

[alwaysright]

the man turns 72 today and picks a one time mayor from a backwater town to be a stroke or heart attack away from the oval office.

Too bad he didn't pick party jumpin joe- then we dems would be rid of him. Maybe, when Obama wins, and we pick up a few senate seats- the party can strip joe of any dignity that he has left(little) and let him lanquish without a chairmanship or even an invite to tea.

to praphrase another poster's closing blurb- to be old and stupid you have to have been young once and been McCain.

[Jim N]

:) I am a democrat, but Sarah's the type of person I would like to have a glass of red wine with on a cold Alaska night. It sounds sexist, but it's what I think. Boy it beats looking at Dick Cheney for four years. I think she is a better shot than Dick, with all those grizzly bears and stuff in Alaska.
She's attractive so she's got my vote. It's not like there's anyone else worth voting for. Obama got votes because he's black, McCain got votes because he was a POW. Neither one offers anything to the country. Biden wasn't a bad choice but I'm straight so I'll go with Sarah.

[alwaysright]

She's attractive so she's got my vote. It's not like there's anyone else worth voting for. Obama got votes because he's black, McCain got votes because he was a POW. Neither one offers anything to the country. Biden wasn't a bad choice but I'm straight so I'll go with Sarah.


split that ticket, Jim- otherwise you'll be voting for an old, damaged man

[jma]

She's like a trophy wife-not much substance, but nice to look at.

[Marc Syrah]

Just a thought...
My wife and I were discussing this issue tonight...
In THIS election you will probably be voting for the VICE PRESIDENT...
McSame will probably drop dead from the stress...
And some “good ole boy” will probably whack Obama...
Things never change...
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/Wineguys/toiletcat.jpg
Guess that puts an end to this discussion cuz no one EVER replies to my posts...
LOL!

[Jim N]

Just a thought...
My wife and I were discussing this issue tonight...
In THIS election you will probably be voting for the VICE PRESIDENT...
McSame will probably drop dead from the stress...
And some “good ole boy” will probably whack Obama...
Things never change...
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/Wineguys/toiletcat.jpg
Guess that puts an end to this discussion cuz no one EVER replies to my posts...
LOL!
I'll reply to your post. I agree with what you said and I think most people do from the comments I've heard and discussions I've had.
But as far as a Trophy wife as jma said I don't see that. Preliminary reports says she did make major changes in Alaskan politics so it appears she has something to offer rather then just the words offered by Obama. Also she is Commander and Chief of the Alaskan National Guard so she understands the military I think she understands international politics very well having Russia as her border neighbor, she goes toe to toe with oil companies and environmentalists day to day. Being a Governor gives her much more experience in what it would be like running a country then just being a congressman or senator. I feel that when they speak of experience what they are really talking about is keeping the status quo in DC so the rich get richer, the poor stay poor and the middle class pay for everything. She seem to have class, pride and intelligence all of which is scaring the Democrats. I'd vote for her if she was running for President she's like a breath of fresh air. She and her husband actually work, not as lawyers or politicians claim to but as actual normal everyday people do.

[Deb]

Jim N.
Let's put this in perspective. It is not my intent to take anything away from Gov. Palin. Just put things in perspective. She served on the city council and was the mayor of a town of 9000 people. She has been Governor for less than 2 years of a state of approx. 650,000 people. While it is not exactly Mayberry, it is small potatoes. You would vote for her for President? Wow.

Here we go again with the pro life, anti abortion stance. Personally, I would not get an abortion because of my own moral code. I would not however force my moral code on anyone else. Therefore I simply state that this should be an individual decision. The laws are in place. Leave it alone. Don't agree with abortion? Seems simple enough. Don't have one.

All in all I must say I am pleased at McCains choice. I would much rather see Gov. Palin on the ticket than say Mitt Romney who I was afraid he would pick.
I believe with Gov. Palin on the ticket it will fall ass backwards faster than Tom Brady did in the Super Bowl with the NY Giants defense in his face!
Sorry, could not resist the opportunity to draw that analogy. Can you tell I'm a Giants fan? Tee hee hee.

[marine1]

Her oldest son is going to Iraq serving in the infantry (I wonder if that will change now. Her son's unit would make too much of a big target for the enemy now that her mother is running for VP). She has a full time job and has five kids (I think in situations like that, the mom, even though works, still does most of the motheren). She's Pro life and her new born is autistic, so she talks the talk and walks the walk on that issue. Her husband is a commercial fisherman and steel worker (pro-union, and, those are not elitist jobs. But if she makes president somehow just don't push any buttons on her desk in the oval office.:eek:

[Deb]

Below is a link of an interview with Alaskan correspondant from the Anchorage News about Gov. Palin. Said it all for me.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/08/29/DI2008082902052.html

[marine1]

thanks for interview, when I have time I will read it in more detail. I did hear her favorite meal is moose stew. I keep thinking of Bullwinkle the moose and get an upset stomach when I heard that. I like to watch the animal channel and wolves are one of my favorite shows. Dosn't seem fair to hunt them from helicoptors.

[flatrat]

Below is a link of an interview with Alaskan correspondant from the Anchorage News about Gov. Palin. Said it all for me.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/08/29/DI2008082902052.html

This is how one native alaskan sees her:
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/what-is-mccain-thinking-one-alaskans-perspective/

Not to take anything away from her talents, or to suggest that she is not a bright hard working person, but to be chosen as VP by a 72 year old man who has had 4 cancers and has a history of sudden death from heart attack in his family (both his father and grandfather died of heart attacks at younger ages than he is now).

How is the mayor of Hooterville Alaska going to negotiate with Iran or Putin. She admittedly doesn't know what a Vice president does, and hasn't "followed" the Iraq war. Is she going to swap Moose stew recipes with Putin?

She wants to teach creationism in schools?

What does this pandering political choice say about McCain's fitness to be commander in chief? His choice is probably the most important of any presidential candidate in recent history, due to his age and health.

But hey, she has 3 houses. And she pronounces it NU-KU-LAR.

I dont know whether to laugh or cry.

[marine1]

To play devil's advocate (I am voting for Obama) Barack only has 3 years in Senate, but then again Barack has been on the national scene for those years. I guess you would call it being "vetted" (sp)

[RC12L4]

To play devil's advocate (I am voting for Obama) Barack only has 3 years in Senate, but then again Barack has been on the national scene for those years. I guess you would call it being "vetted" (sp)

3 Years in the Senate, 18 months of which he's been campaigning. Math isn't my strong suit but doesn't that give him 18 months of real experience as a Senator? On top of that which position prepares you more to lead in an executive position? Governor or Senator? If you say Senator why is it that the last Senator that was elected president was 40 years ago, if they're such great leaders why not more?

You're vetted for president with 18 months experience?

[BillCarson436]

Hello...

My 2 cents.

Young and Old - Democratic ticket
Old and Young - Republican ticket

One is a new face
The other brings on a new face

One party runs a President elect with no experience
One party runs with a Vice President elect with no experience

One said " we are the party of change" and brings on an experienced
Washington insider...
The other is a Washington Insider and brings on an outsider from Alaska

Both... are for drilling off shore. ( sad )

One is for giving Amnesty to illegals
One is not

One is for pulling out of Iraq
One is for stay and finish the job

One is for choice
the other Anti- Abortion.

One wants to give money to people who don't work
One wants to give money to those that provide work

One refused to put an experienced woman on the ticket
One put an inexperienced woman on the ticket

Now... in closing

What I think.... America was stupid enough to pick Bush over
both Al Gore and John Kerry

America hasn't changed... so the outcome is as the Dems say....
same old same old....

[Wallyworldite]

Until yesterday, I did not like either candidate. That is UNTIL yesterday. McCain's selection of Palin is a perfect fit for what I would like to see in someone learning to be the next President.

Obama's pick of Biden was horrible. He's just another Washington insider. Palin gives a refreshing light to politics as usual. She stands by her beliefs and those beliefs are mostly in with mine. She is bright and articulate.

For years we have heard Bush ridiculed that Cheney was really the President and that Bush was always needing to rely upon him for advice. It seems that the Obama Ticket is just that, the inexperience at the top with the jaded experience in the wings. That is not approporiate. A balanced ticket has the experience at the top and the competent yet willing to learn person in the wings. To argue differently is just plain stupid. :D

McCain and Palin, now. :cool:

[Jim N]

Until yesterday, I did not like either candidate. That is UNTIL yesterday. McCain's selection of Palin is a perfect fit for what I would like to see in someone learning to be the next President.

Obama's pick of Biden was horrible. He's just another Washington insider. Palin gives a refreshing light to politics as usual. She stands by her beliefs and those beliefs are mostly in with mine. She is bright and articulate.

For years we have heard Bush ridiculed that Cheney was really the President and that Bush was always needing to rely upon him for advice. It seems that the Obama Ticket is just that, the inexperience at the top with the jaded experience in the wings. That is not approporiate. A balanced ticket has the experience at the top and the competent yet willing to learn person in the wings. To argue differently is just plain stupid. :D

McCain and Palin, now. :cool:
I agree.
Also in my opinion none of the candidates are worthy of the position. No one can be trained to be President. But I feel comfortable casting a vote for a ticket where the VP knows what it's like to work in private sector, to struggle to put food on the table and clothing on your children. I think she'll work at watching taxes and understanding what it actually means to work, and raise a family and why taxes shouldn't be raised just to feed welfare and the federal government's insatiable appetite for money. With her son in the military she may help put an end to killing other people's children for other countries where we have no business being in the first place.
IT ABOUT TIME WE PUT A REAL AMERICAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE.:)

[RC12L4]

This is interesting: Palin dismissed the gov servants, sold the state jet, and drives herself to work.

[Deb]

Nothing angers me more than the fact that thousands of people have died in a war that was sold to the American people using fear tactics. I 100% support our troops but they never should have gone to Iraq in the first place. We were lied to by Bush and he has been supported by McCain. Where are the weapons of mass distruction? The UN was lied to so that we could go to war.

McCain has recently stated that he would not rule out another preemptive strike against another country. That's all he had to say for me. You want blood on your hands vote for McCain.

This has been a total embarrassment and disgrace.

WHERE IS OSAMA BIN LADEN?????

If anyone had said to me 10 years ago that someone would take out the Towers in NY and the Pentagon and we, the United States of America would not be able to capture him, I would have bet the house, literally, against that. We are the super power right? Greatest country in the world right? And this P(*Sy in the white house could not catch this pathetic cave dweller that killed thousands of Americans on our soil. We had the entire world behind us on September 11. We've gone from that to the laughing stock. And McCain has supported this from day one. PATHETIC.
The really really sad part is that I think he has a good chance of winning. I absolutely could not believe that Bush was elected to a second term so now I would believe anything.

You want to talk about morals, family values, Christianity? Then stop murdering people for money and oil under the guise of national security.

The proof?

WHERE IS OSAMA BIN LADEN????????

'nuff said.

[BillCarson436]

Hello...

Osama who ???

How many years have we been " attack free " ???

Yes.. I like the same old same old....

The best defense is a good offense ....

Seems to me were doing just fine.

Seems to me Osama is no more a threat.. than Freddy Kruger

[Jim N]

Where is OSAMA BIN LADEN?????? Probably at Camp David. Come on, he was able to do what he did because the administration let him. Because of him they invaded Iraq start Homeland Security (Gestapo) and took away more and more rights everyday. Gas and oil prices sky high and in yesterdays paper China signed a 20 year oil contract with Iraq starting at 25000 barrels a day and going up to over 125000. Where is any oil to pay us back for the billions we dumped into that country. No one could ever pay for the dead Americans at Bush and Cheneys feet for their profits. So you want Bin Laden check Camp David or maybe Maine or where every Cheney has his hide aways.

[Deb]

BillCarson436,
It's burying your head in the sand that got us attacked in the first place. Nobody believed he was a threat before 911. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

JimN is a lot closer to the truth.

By the way, I'm a Bill Parcells fan. Defense wins games. Remember the last Super Bowl. Go Giants!!!!

[flatrat]

3 Years in the Senate, 18 months of which he's been campaigning. Math isn't my strong suit but doesn't that give him 18 months of real experience as a Senator? On top of that which position prepares you more to lead in an executive position? Governor or Senator? If you say Senator why is it that the last Senator that was elected president was 40 years ago, if they're such great leaders why not more?

You're vetted for president with 18 months experience?

I'm voting for Obama even though he lacks McCains "experience." Obama wasnt my first choice, but if I have to choose between him and a mean, wife cheating, hot tempered, narrow minded bigot, who cant understand that negotiations come before the bombs, not after, who represents the last 8 years of failure and incompetence, its a no brainer.

Dick Nixon had experience. Bush 41 had experience. Cheney /Rumfailed had experience. JFK, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan did not.

And I'm sorry, I know its not fair, but Sarah Palin sounds like a Valley Girl when she talks. I think the choice was more to bring the religious extremists to the polls than to get the Hillary women.

Just as the Dems have to give up gun control to win, the Republicans have to distance from the extreme right "Christian Taliban" to win. McCain hasnt figured that out yet, and he will fail miserably in November. Up until this past week, I thought it was going to be a close race.

[BillCarson436]

Hello.....

Muffffffffffughhhhhhhhhh...... < ------ sound I make with my head in the sand...lol

Seriously.... 9/11 is sooooooooooo old news, about as relevant as the
sinking of the USS Maine.

That won't happen again... if we stopped spending billions on " security"

A pre - emptive nuclear attack from Russia or China is more relevant
today. Bin Laden's story ended with 9/11

My proof will be in 25 years when they discover his bleached bones beside
a jar labled... " My plans to destroy America ".

I'm not easily swayed or convinced by the main strem media or the
Fox / National Enquirer crap pushers of the industry.

Bush gets up before a well scripted news conference and says that
HE is going to open up Alaska and Florida to off shore drilling. The very
next day gas prices begin to fall... I know a set-up when I see one.

Like the sham Gas Shortages of the 70's.... this stradegy worked even
better.

Now... what did I miss when my head was buried in the sand ????

Oh yes.... Obama's trip to the middle east last week made him this...
credible leader in the world of Foreign Policy. Just like my neighbor
who went to Russia last week makes her an expert on American / Russo
foreign policy. Maybe the ticket should me McCain / Biden ????
Let the KIDS stay at home untill they grow up ??? God is this country
of mine in trouble. Where is Grant when we need him !!!!

Nope...no sand in MY eyes....lol

[RC12L4]

Reminder: Palin went against the grain and taxed big oil in Alaska and return the profits to the people of her state. While Obama has been talking about doing this Palin actually HAS been doing it. Of course none of this counts as experience, does it. You want change?

Windfall tax lets Alaska rake in billions from Big Oil

Republicans in Congress this June united to defeat a proposed windfall tax on oil companies, deriding it as a bad idea that would discourage investment in U.S. oil exploration.

Things worked out far differently in the GOP stronghold of Alaska, a state whose economic fate is closely tied to the oil industry.

Over the opposition of oil companies, Republican Gov. Sarah Palin and Alaska's Legislature last year approved a major increase in taxes on the oil industry — a step that has generated stunning new wealth for the state as oil prices soared.

....

Palin's administration last week gained legislative approval for a special $1,200 payment to every Alaskan to help cope with gas prices, which are among the highest in the country.

[Deb]

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck.
Interesting how in this thread the number one issue and credit to Palin have to do with $$$ and oil. Why should this surprise me coming from Bush/McCain followers (the ducks)? Sad. $$$ before our troops lives.
I repeat, never should have been in this war and McClain says not to rule out another preemptive strike against another country. That should be enough for anybody not to support him.
Screw money and oil....we're talking innocent lives and people still don't get it.
Or even scarier, maybe they do.
Don't talk to me about family values until you've washed the blood off of your hands.

[RC12L4]

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck.
Interesting how in this thread the number one issue and credit to Palin have to do with $$$ and oil. Why should this surprise me coming from Bush/McCain followers (the ducks)? Sad. $$$ before our troops lives.
I repeat, never should have been in this war and McClain says not to rule out another preemptive strike against another country. That should be enough for anybody not to support him.
Screw money and oil....we're talking innocent lives and people still don't get it.
Or even scarier, maybe they do.
Don't talk to me about family values until you've washed the blood off of your hands.

What's Obama's stance on Iraq?

[BillCarson436]

Hello...

Both the democrats and the republicans are for drilling off shore now...
making it an energy dependance justification. The Republicans were
ALWAYS pushing for off shore drilling... the dems were always AGAINST
it...but somethng ...has changed....

To get elected... Obama is NOW for off shore drilling.

In that respect... we all loose.

I think Nader is the only Candidate that's against drillingin Alaska and in
the Gulf.... and he has no chance.

And Sarah..... Is it ME or does this lady look like the girl on the Seinfeld....
Show...Eline ???

[Deb]

What's Obama's stance on Iraq?

He voted against going into Iraq in the first place. Now he has stated that we need to withdraw in a timely, responsible way. We do have an obligation to finish what Bush started. And he's not looking to start a war somewhere else like McCain when this one is over.

Maybe now that the Bush-Bin Laden ties are broken we will actually capture Bin Laden.

[RC12L4]

He voted against going into Iraq in the first place. Now he has stated that we need to withdraw in a timely, responsible way. We do have an obligation to finish what Bush started. And he's not looking to start a war somewhere else like McCain when this one is over.

Maybe now that the Bush-Bin Laden ties are broken we will actually capture Bin Laden.

He voted against it? Really, explain how he voted against it when he wasn't even a Senator when the vote was taken. The vote was taken in 2002 he was elected to the Senate in 2004.

[flatrat]

He voted against it? Really, explain how he voted against it when he wasn't even a Senator when the vote was taken. The vote was taken in 2002 he was elected to the Senate in 2004.


I believe Obama "spoke out" against the war in Iraq, not voted...Just like Bush and his noise machine "spoke out" against a withdrawal timetable, and called it surrender, before they negotiated a withdrawal timetable.

But fear not, Bomber McMansion and his GILF mate will never surrender (to rationality, reality, or logic)!

[RC12L4]

I believe Obama "spoke out" against the war in Iraq, not voted...Just like Bush and his noise machine "spoke out" against a withdrawal timetable, and called it surrender, before they negotiated a withdrawal timetable.

But fear not, Bomber McMansion and his GILF mate will never surrender (to rationality, reality, or logic)!

Oh I'm sure he did speak out against it, after all he had nothing to really lose at that point. I'm curious, how has be voted regarding the Iraq war since he was elected?

[BillCarson436]

Hello...

Yes.... Obama spoke out against the war ... he didn't have to stand up
like Hillary.

I wonder..... had Obama been in office...and present for a vote from
the floor...

Do you think he would have voted NO???

Not many did If I recall... Republicans were painting the Dems into a box...

to NOT give approval was... political Suicide. To not support the troops...
yea... Obama would have voted NOT to give authorization to use force
against our enemy... yeah right.

Did anybody ever ask him if he would have voted NO on that resolution ?

Too bad because that vote turned out to be the firstof many bullets
shetook from her opponents on stage andin the press.

Ok...I'm done with this thread.

[Marc Syrah]

Hi Folks!
Just had to add my 5 cents worth...
It’s 11:35PM August 31...
Hurricane Gustav is about to hit New Orleans or there abouts....
AfganistanIraqIranChinaRussia et all... are Major Concerns for the USA...
So ask yourself this 1 simple question....
Where will this once great country of ours be in 4 years if the Republicans continue the direction they have taken us for the last 8 years?
FWIW... Neither candidate will be MY President... But... it is time for a change.

[RC12L4]

Hi Folks!
Just had to add my 5 cents worth...
It’s 11:35PM August 31...
Hurricane Gustav is about to hit New Orleans or there abouts....
AfganistanIraqIranChinaRussia et all... are Major Concerns for the USA...
So ask yourself this 1 simple question....
Where will this once great country of ours be in 4 years if the Republicans continue the direction they have taken us for the last 8 years?
FWIW... Neither candidate will be MY President... But... it is time for a change.

If the Democratically controlled Congress is any indication of what lies ahead I'd say it will be business as usual.

Has anyone found the Pelosi "Common Sense Energy Plan" she spoke of? When is she going to stand up and make big changes she touted so beautifully?

[RC12L4]

Oh I'm sure he did speak out against it, after all he had nothing to really lose at that point. I'm curious, how has be voted regarding the Iraq war since he was elected?

I'll quote and answer myself since nobody has yet.

* 2002: Clinton "voted for the October 2002 resolution authorizing the Iraq war, while Obama (Ill.), then a state senator, publicly opposed the war."
With nothing to lose Obama was against the war.

* 2004: In July 2004, Obama told New York Times that "he was not sure whether he would have voted against the resolution had he been in the Senate."
With his impending election to the Senate 4 months away he changes his tune, now he's not sure.

* Since 2005: Obama's "voting record has been virtually identical to Clinton's. 'Senator Obama voted $301 billion in funding. So did Senator Clinton, ... Senator Obama voted against a definite withdrawal date. So did Senator Clinton.'"
Amazing, he seems to fall in line pretty well when he has all his chips on the table.

On May 4, 2006, Obama voted YES for HR 4939, the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2006, which included $67.55 billion for U.S. Department of Defense operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

* $31.6 billion for operations and maintenance
* $15.46 billion for procurement of aircraft, missiles, weapons, combat vehicles, and ammunition
* $10.2 billion for military personnel
* $3.7 billion for the Iraq Security Forces Fund
* $1.96 billion for the Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Fund
* $1.91 billion for the Afghanistan Security Forces Fund
That's lots of change right there, hope too.

Can someone explain to me how this guy isn't just another politician looking to climb to the next level in his career? He offers lots of hope and change in his words but his actions speak the exact opposite.

Let me guess, he's playing the game until he gets in the White House, then he's going to really start cranking out that change......

This guy is a real maverick.

[RC12L4]

I believe Obama "spoke out" against the war in Iraq, not voted...Just like Bush and his noise machine "spoke out" against a withdrawal timetable, and called it surrender, before they negotiated a withdrawal timetable.

But fear not, Bomber McMansion and his GILF mate will never surrender (to rationality, reality, or logic)!

I made note of your GILF comment, are you too latching on to the story that her youngest child isn't hers but in fact her daughters?

[flatrat]

I made note of your GILF comment, are you too latching on to the story that her youngest child isn't hers but in fact her daughters?

What makes you think that? I hadnt mentioned anything about her daughter.

I would rather talk about her being involved in Sen. Ted Stevens 527 group, or her membership in the AIP (Alaska Independence Party, which supports seceding from the US) or her poor record of fiscal management, or troopergate, or her initial support of the Bridge to Nowhere. (I was for the bridge to nowhere before I was against it). I wont even mention her "arrest" for fishing without a license.

The "maverick" image is just that, an image. And why has the FBI stated that the first they heard of her was when the announcement was made of her pick as VP, which contradicts the "she was vetted" spin being put out there.

And yes, Obama is a politician, and will have to be watched by all of us. It will be the job of the "loyal opposition," the Republicans to not do what the Dems have done with Bush, roll over and play dead. I'm sure they will be up to the task.

And this whole issue isnt about Palin, its about McCain, and his judgment. If you think he exercises good judgment, then vote for him.

[Anna]

William Ayers, Tony Resko and Rev. Wright... judgement applies to both of these candidates.

[marine1]

Rev Wright served four years in the Marine Corp. Semper fi

[brunet]

Only 4 years ago Obama was a state senator. To put in perspective, he had the same position as Tom Gaffey and the profound issues confronted with that position.

Obama comes across as a political evangelist or motivational speaker, I guess we are fortunate Tony Robbins isn't a politician.

[marine1]

Only 4 years ago Obama was a state senator. To put in perspective, he had the same position as Tom Gaffey and the profound issues confronted with that position.

Obama comes across as a political evangelist or motivational speaker, I guess we are fortunate Tony Robbins isn't a politician.

Did you see the Movie "Gladiator" when Russel Crow at the begining of the movie made a speech to motivate his troops into combat with huns, it made me want to jump in the screen and join the fight. Or Patton. He knew how to stir up his troops. Obama's speechs get people goin!

[RC12L4]

I have to chuckle that so much time and energy is being used to cover Palin, the more focus on her and McCain the less focus is on Obama. You guys realize you're playing right in to the McCain campaign hands right?

[Anna]

Did anyone happen to watch MSNBC during the convention last night? Keith Oberman is hysterical. Everytime someone said something positive about the convention or a speaker he had to critize or make an off hand comment. He had to make sure he left everything on a negative note. I couldn't stop laughing. It was like watching a 4 year old have a tantrum. This guy obviously needs some quality therapy. Something is definetly wrong with him. When McCain/Palin wins in Novemeber, he is going to have a nervous breakdown on the air. He reminds me of a male Rosie O'Donnel. The liberal media really knows how to pick 'em.

[alwaysright]

I have to chuckle that so much time and energy is being used to cover Palin, the more focus on her and McCain the less focus is on Obama. You guys realize you're playing right in to the McCain campaign hands right?


they'll cover them now- it's convention time. But when the debates start- we'll all see that the old man has little to no judgement and Obama will shine.

[arahant]

Did anyone happen to watch MSNBC during the convention last night? Keith Oberman is hysterical. Everytime someone said something positive about the convention or a speaker he had to critize or make an off hand comment. He had to make sure he left everything on a negative note. I couldn't stop laughing. It was like watching a 4 year old have a tantrum. This guy obviously needs some quality therapy. Something is definetly wrong with him. When McCain/Palin wins in Novemeber, he is going to have a nervous breakdown on the air. He reminds me of a male Rosie O'Donnel. The liberal media really knows how to pick 'em.

I can only watch that guy in short spurts. He is a total niut-job. Therapy would be a good start.

[RC12L4]

they'll cover them now- it's convention time. But when the debates start- we'll all see that the old man has little to no judgement and Obama will shine.

We'll see how well Obama does without his teleprompter, hopefully he won't have a Bush "it's hardwork" moment.

[flatrat]

Did anyone happen to watch MSNBC during the convention last night? Keith Oberman is hysterical. Everytime someone said something positive about the convention or a speaker he had to critize or make an off hand comment. He had to make sure he left everything on a negative note. I couldn't stop laughing. It was like watching a 4 year old have a tantrum. This guy obviously needs some quality therapy. Something is definetly wrong with him. When McCain/Palin wins in Novemeber, he is going to have a nervous breakdown on the air. He reminds me of a male Rosie O'Donnel. The liberal media really knows how to pick 'em.


Unlike Bill O'reilly who has already had several nervous breakdowns on the air. Unlike Rush Limbaugh who will never have a nervous breakdown on the air, because he is all doped up on oxycontin. Unlike Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, The Savage Wiener and other "quality" republican journalists.

[RC12L4]

Unlike Bill O'reilly who has already had several nervous breakdowns on the air. Unlike Rush Limbaugh who will never have a nervous breakdown on the air, because he is all doped up on oxycontin. Unlike Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, The Savage Wiener and other "quality" republican journalists.

All of which are top dogs in the ratings, does that scare you? It should. How's Air America doing, is it even still on the air?

[flatrat]

All of which are top dogs in the ratings, does that scare you? It should. How's Air America doing, is it even still on the air?


Top dog in the ratings for those who listen to AM. So who listens to AM radio anymore? only the dittoheads.

Fox News viewers have been rated the most uninformed viewers in the country, according to a PIPA study done.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_bt/102.php?nid=&id=&pnt=102&lb=brusc

I dont get Air America. How are John Stewart ratings? Colbert? Their viewers have been shown to be the most informed.

And if you want an example of Stewart calling out Republican talking point idiocy go here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/jon-stewart-hits-karl-rov_n_123852.html

Laughter is good for the soul.

[RC12L4]

Top dog in the ratings for those who listen to AM. So who listens to AM radio anymore? only the dittoheads.

Fox News viewers have been rated the most uninformed viewers in the country, according to a PIPA study done.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_bt/102.php?nid=&id=&pnt=102&lb=brusc

I dont get Air America. How are John Stewart ratings? Colbert? Their viewers have been shown to be the most informed.

And if you want an example of Stewart calling out Republican talking point idiocy go here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/jon-stewart-hits-karl-rov_n_123852.html

Laughter is good for the soul.


Did you just provide a link to the Huffingtonpost? What next The Daily Kos? You've lost any credibility you might have had.

Example of fine journalism at huffingtonpost:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/randall-robinson/new-orleans_b_6643.html
It is reported that black hurricane victims in New Orleans have begun eating corpses to survive.

[CMNSNC]

Small town, isn't that what America is all about?
I heard her talk today and as far as I'm concerned, Sarah Palin should be running for president and not vice president!
Isn't most of these great United States 'small town'? Wallingford, Meriden, and yes, even New Haven and Hartford, would be considered 'small town' by most standards.
She has a feel for most Americans and I think she will be a great vice president who will not sit on the sidelines and be a figurehead for the chief executive.
I think she is honest in her feelings that 'we the people' should have a better say in our government!
We have had enough of the elite of Washington, D.C. and it's time we got back to our roots!
I'm voting Republican this year and I think that this will be a good four years for our country!
By the way, she is a much better speaker than anyone in recent memory!

[RC12L4]

Small town, isn't that what America is all about?
I heard her talk today and as far as I'm concerned, Sarah Palin should be running for president and not vice president!
Isn't most of these great United States 'small town'? Wallingford, Meriden, and yes, even New Haven and Hartford, would be considered 'small town' by most standards.
She has a feel for most Americans and I think she will be a great vice president who will not sit on the sidelines and be a figurehead for the chief executive.
I think she is honest in her feelings that 'we the people' should have a better say in our government!
We have had enough of the elite of Washington, D.C. and it's time we got back to our roots!
I'm voting Republican this year and I think that this will be a good four years for our country!
By the way, she is a much better speaker than anyone in recent memory!

"Hey man we didn't want that much change."
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[rapuda]

Seriously people.

Explain to me how McCain will be different than the last 8 years.
Let's not talk about Palin or Obama for a moment.
Let's talk about how the country will be better with McCain when he has a lot of the same principles and ideas that Bush had.
Can someone please tell me how McCain will be different than Bush 43?
I need to know.

[alwaysright]

heck- with that ugly puss on McCain- we'll be much worse off. The policies will get harsher for the middle class. The downtrodden will be forgotten and the super rich will get richer. He's a damaged man

[flatrat]

Hello.....

Bush gets up before a well scripted news conference and says that
HE is going to open up Alaska and Florida to off shore drilling. The very
next day gas prices begin to fall... I know a set-up when I see one.

Now... what did I miss when my head was buried in the sand ????


Nope...no sand in MY eyes....lol

Dont you think the gas price decline is more related to the upcoming elections? Dont they always fall just before a national election?

Just like the terror warnings always increase as we get close to November. Fear sells. And the Republicans always seem to be afraid.

To believe that drilling a few more oil wells in ANWAR is going to help us out of the carbon crisis is delusional. It will, however, make some more republican oil people rich. Isnt that what its always about? Dont they already have existing oil rights offshore that they are not utilizing? Why dont they build any more refineries? What good is oil if we cant refine it?

Every time we fill our SUVs we make the Saudis richer. Its the extremist radical Islamic Saudis who attacked us on 9/11, not the moderate Islamic Iraqis, or the moderate Islamic Iranians.