oil crisis

[navyvet]

Can anyone tell me the REAL reason politicians wont let us drill for American oil?

[eds]

The REAL reason? Who knows?

My opinion is either that they are bowing to the environmentalists, or we are saving our oil for when the Middle East runs out and then we corner the market, or there really is no oil there and its all a myth, or they are intentionally not drilling to keep supplies tight and prices high. The last one sounds best to me. And they get to make the enviros happy to boot.

[RC12L4]

Here's why:

http://www.alaskatrophyadventures.com/alaska2002lance%20204.jpg

The treehuggers convinced the US government that oil pipelines are not wanted in Mr. Caribou's backyard. The great part is the people being hurt the most are the lower wage earners.

[navyvet]

Begining next winter, people are going to start freezing to death in this country. Senator Shumer (NY-D) said, even if we drill in Alaska, it will take 10 years to get the oil to market. Him and others have been saying that for OVER 10 yeras now. We need to replace all of the current pols before our country completely disintergrates.

[eds]

oooo that looks tasty.

I wonder if you can use caribou fat rendered down into some kind of bio fuel?

[RC12L4]

oooo that looks tasty.

I wonder if you can use caribou fat rendered down into some kind of bio fuel?

Not sure about that but those antlers would make a great hat rack.

[eds]

Hat rack! Now that's reusing and recycling.

[Modica]

Why blame it on the elk, caribou and other wildlife? Let's start with man. Last week oil dropped 10 dollars a gallon for a barrel of oil. The price for a barrel of oil was around $137.00 at the beginning of last week and by the end of last week it was aroung $127.00. Yesterday, the price of a barrel of oil went up $11.00 to around $139.00. When the price went down for a barrel of oil, the price at the pump actually went up about 2 or 3 cents. After going up $11 dollars yesterday, the price at my local service station in Cheshire went from $4.18 yesterday to $4.46 this morning. A 28 cent rise at the pumps overnight. Who do we blame when the barrel of oil is less than two cents higher than it was the beginning of last week, but the price of gasoline at the pumps is 30 cents higher than it was last Monday(Memorial Day). It seems to me the people to blame are not the environmentalists, but big oil and the speculators on Wall Street. They are the ones who are doing this. And if we drill in the wildlife sanctuary, who says that it will make a bit of difference. This is all just manipulation. We need to always ask questions like this, and not only when we hit hard times like we are now experiencing. We should have asked those questions years ago.

[BillCarson436]

Hello...

My 2 centavos....

WHO is pushing for drilling in Alaska... who has always been pushing for it ?

Do you think for ONE minute that MORE oil means lower prices ????

More oil means more PRODUCT to sell... at rediculous prices.

Why are we not drilling off shore in the Gulf... because we can't risk
destroying the tourist industry in Florida and the Islands.

So...if we can't drill offshore in the Gulf for fear of an " accidental spill "
why should Alaska be sacrificed ???

My final word... Didn't we just INVADED an oil rich Country... with our
sights set on a second one.... and what ever happened to the phrase
" To the VICTOR goes the SPOILS ??? "

We should be importing cheap refined oil NOT from Alaska or the Gulf...
but from Iraq !!!

and we should be putting our Oil Executives in prison for theft ... only
because we cant string those bastards up !

[Modica]

Hello...

My 2 centavos....

WHO is pushing for drilling in Alaska... who has always been pushing for it ?

Do you think for ONE minute that MORE oil means lower prices ????

More oil means more PRODUCT to sell... at rediculous prices.

Why are we not drilling off shore in the Gulf... because we can't risk
destroying the tourist industry in Florida and the Islands.

So...if we can't drill offshore in the Gulf for fear of an " accidental spill "
why should Alaska be sacrificed ???

My final word... Didn't we just INVADED an oil rich Country... with our
sights set on a second one.... and what ever happened to the phrase
" To the VICTOR goes the SPOILS ??? "

We should be importing cheap refined oil NOT from Alaska or the Gulf...
but from Iraq !!!

and we should be putting our Oil Executives in prison for theft ... only
because we cant string those bastards up !
Stringing the bastards up sounds good to me.

[BillCarson436]

Hello...

They don't need to be Millionares.... or strung up.

Just take a fair portion of their... i mean OUR...oil.

Like 3/4

LOL

[Modica]

Hello...

They don't need to be Millionares.... or strung up.

Just take a fair portion of their... i mean OUR...oil.

Like 3/4

LOL
You are a much nicer person than I am. What the powerful are doing to our country is obscene.

[Chriss P]

Could there be a secret conspiracy of the Mideast nations to want to bring America to a new level of weakness.

We send a man to the moon and a probe to mars and yet can not create a good system of alternate fuels. Maybe we will evolve later into a society thats not in such a hurry or needs large vehicles in order to use smaller more energy efficient cars.

[Modica]

Could there be a secret conspiracy of the Mideast nations to want to bring America to a new level of weakness.

We send a man to the moon and a probe to mars and yet can not create a good system of alternate fuels. Maybe we will evolve later into a society thats not in such a hurry or needs large vehicles in order to use smaller more energy efficient cars.
It is not that we can't create an alternate fuel that works, it is that we the oil companies don't want us to get off oil. If Jimmy Carter had his way 30 years ago, we would be driving electric cars now.

[flatrat]

It's my understanding that there are 3 factors at play in the high cost of gas:

1. Increased demand from Asia
2. Inadequate number of refineries, and refineries with long down times due to maintenance issues
3. The devalued Dollar. I heard somewhere that compared to the gold standard, the price of oil is somewhat static.

The "Oil Crisis" certainly isn't hurting Exxon-Mobil's profits. They are higher than ever, but then our government ha been controlled by oil people for the last 8 years.

[eds]

If Jimmy Carter had his way 30 years ago, we would be driving electric cars now.


And still complaining about new power plants...

[UNiRAC]

Hello...

My 2 centavos....

WHO is pushing for drilling in Alaska... who has always been pushing for it ?
Do you think for ONE minute that MORE oil means lower prices ????
More oil means more PRODUCT to sell... at rediculous price
Why are we not drilling off shore in the Gulf... because we can't risk destroying the tourist industry in Florida and the Islands.So...if we can't drill offshore in the Gulf for fear of an " accidental spill "why should Alaska be sacrificed ???
My final word... Didn't we just INVADED an oil rich Country... with oursights set on a second one.... and what ever happened to the phrase
" To the VICTOR goes the SPOILS ??? "
We should be importing cheap refined oil NOT from Alaska or the Gulf...but from Iraq !!!
and we should be putting our Oil Executives in prison for theft ... only because we cant string those bastards up !
Navy Vet: watch c-span today when they debate that very ''10 yr. plan'' yeah, RIGHT [btw: a director at NASA said Global Warming was coming ... 20 yrs ago]
btw: heat ain't everything... how about Bush's ''switchgrass and no more refineries or coal scrubers or the WAR will pay for itself in OIL ! ?? [now Corn,wheat,Hogs,Beef, Chicken,Eggs futures shot to hell]
And to Mr. Bill, More oil from anwar [ the size of a airport , land wise] might help ''war is good for the economy'' [ yeah! Right!] but China and India want [more gas guzeling fuel] [ and polutin' COAL exports]what we've had and they will polute the earth and drive up prices even more. Just keep off my Atlantic shelf [ costs are $1,000,000,000 per drill site payed at the pumps]

enough of this chit'chat rant:confused:

[tOuchmyBody]

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[CMNSNC]

With all the flatulence that Washington puts out we should be energy independent in a couple of days!

[UNiRAC]

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[Marc Syrah]

:) Anyone here old enough to remember the Popular Mechanics issue that highlighted a carburetor that would let you get 100+ MPG?
:D

[BillCarson436]

Hello...

Bust opened up off shore drilling yesterday...now blames the Democrats
for blocking it. What is new there...lol

Like I said... these current gas prices are the fuel to sway the
american public's opinion to open up the Gulf and Alaska to the
Oil Company's drilling.

Drilling will NOT change the price at the pump... it's NOT a supply
driven gassurge... it's a profits glutz.

IF they open up drilling in Alaska and the Gulf... it means more gas
at whatever the current price will be at that time....... NOT cheaper
prices at the pump.

Having said that... I BELIEVE that the majority of the American people
today are stupid... and will tip the scales towards allowing off shore
drilling... and when the first accicident occurs... it will be justified by
some politician saying... in spite of the damage...it was worth the risk.

That's the future... you can bet on it.

[BillCarson436]

OOPs...that was suppose to open with Bush... sorry, it's early

[Modica]

It all sounds like a fairy tale. If we let them drill for oil, what makes you think that the price will go down. Couldn't this just be a ploy to get us to drill further out in the ocean, because once they drill I feel that it would not affect the price. The politicians and corporations lie to get what they want. I really can't believe that anyone would listen to the same people who said there were WMD in Iraq. They continue to lie and maybe they are artificially inflating prices in order to get what they want.

[S_Meriden60]

The price of oil is driven by many factors that have been pointed out in previous posts.

What can we do?

Start by driving the limit on the highway, city roads etc. and stick to it.
You'll be amazed at how much gas you save.
Keep your tires at the correct pressure and keep a clean air filter.
Try to combine trips and cancel ones that aren't life or death.
I realize many people must drive for their job but if we all follow this we will consume less.
New teen laws in CT make kids all take separate cars now. It's good and bad.
It saves lives, but it also puts more cars on the already crowded roads.
Remember when most families had one or two cars?

Invest in new windows and insulation for your home.
Invest in an alternate heating system for your home such as wood or pellets stoves or solar. Costs too much you say? Well wait 'til next year and the next and you'll be kicking yourself you didn't change over sooner.
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What the government can do.
Now, here's the hard part. Getting law makers to help build incentives for energy saving ideas and technology.
Give back tax credits for solar energy that Reagan took away.
Force car makers to increase combined fleet mileage for their cars.
Give them incentives for new technology.

As for drilling on the homeland, allow it where it makes sense as not to endanger delicate areas. Having visable oil rigs off the shore of Miami is not a good idea.
The cost of drilling in the US is very high and must produce results as soon as a well hits. Don't believe the bunk about it taking 5 or 10 years to refine that oil. If you own an oil rig and it hits oil, you're not going to stand around waiting 10 years to bring your product to market.
I met a man on on a business trip once that is an oil and gas wildcat. He said it costs him 1 Million to drill a well. He said there is a large natural gas field between NY state and Pennsylvannia that would heat New England for 25 years.
Why don't you go get it I asked him? He said it costs too much to drill.

There is no silver bullet. But there are things we can do to conserve and in time new technologies will emerge to lesson our dependance.

My two cents.