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cherrybarbs
04-30-2008, 08:17 PM
Did anyone hear about the man, who was stabbed 12 to 15 times on Crown St on SAT 4/26? Is R.J. going to cover the drive by shooting that happen tonight. I wonder if anyone cares anymore, or we just come custom to it?
How did you hear about it?
cherrybarbs
04-30-2008, 09:00 PM
I have a Police Scanner, but I can get only there main freq. 855.512. It’s real old, however it’s enough to keep me inform of what going on. And of course I can’t listen to it 24/7, I wish there was away I could plug it in the P.C. so everyone can hear it.
Keep in mind that the dispatcher can send an officer to a stabbing in progress, that actually turns out to be nothing. The information the dispatchers receive is often very different than what's actually going on at the scene. I'm sure that if it was truly newsworthy, the R/J would be all over it.
cherrybarbs
04-30-2008, 10:15 PM
Yes, your right about the dispatcher getting calls that are some times false, but on 4/27, I had talk with this victim who got stabbed, so I know it’s true. And on this drive by shooting on 5/1. The Police said over the air, that they found 3 bullet castings on the ground. I would think this was news worthy, R.J. and others may not.
RC12L4
04-30-2008, 11:46 PM
Yes, your right about the dispatcher getting calls that are some times false, but on 4/27, I had talk with this victim who got stabbed, so I know it’s true. And on this drive by shooting on 5/1. The Police said over the air, that they found 3 bullet castings on the ground. I would think this was news worthy, R.J. and others may not.
5/1? It's only 4/30 right now, you have one hell of a scanner if it can predict the future.
cherrybarbs,
Go to Meriden PD, ask for Mike Zak. He can either help you or point you in the right direction. Ask for the FOI on any arrests made and/or outcomes. I believe that the information is public. Hearing things on the scanner can be misleading. You should get the facts of the case report before bringing this to public attention. I believe the case reports are public information and what are used to write the police blotter in the paper. I don't exactly know what is and what is not public. But I know there is public information available for crimes committed in Meriden.
I think you will find many of these to be false alarms or exaggerated circumstances. If not, you will find the correct information through FOI.
collie
05-01-2008, 12:06 PM
True and then write a letter to the editor and post it on the forum!
cherrybarbs
05-01-2008, 03:38 PM
I’m not just relying on my scanner, I know a few Officers too. R.J. covers other Town’s news pretty well, why not here? I thought for sure they would have article on yesterdays drive by shooting on 4/30. I’m not the only one that feels this way, a lot of old timers feel there being short change too. We shouldn’t have to go though 5 to10 news sources to find out what’s really going in our City. If that’s the case, why have a newspaper at all? http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/09/business/main3812203.shtml I’m getting most of my news online already. http://www.wfsb.com/news/15950667/detail.html http://www.wfsb.com/news/10962934/detail.html http://www.wfsb.com/news/10736764/detail.html http://www.nbc30.com/news/15211105/detail.html
MeridenMatt
05-01-2008, 05:36 PM
What are those links supposed to show? One is from Wisconsin, 2 are over a year old, one was about a guy who was arrested on warrants from NY, and the last was a quick blurb about something that happened 4 months ago. Do you really think the RJ should report on everything that the MPD does?
collie
05-01-2008, 06:14 PM
Actually, I think the news stations in CT peruse the newspapers every day and get a lot of their leads there.
cherrybarbs
05-01-2008, 06:16 PM
What are those links supposed to show? One is from Wisconsin, 2 are over a year old, one was about a guy who was arrested on warrants from NY, and the last was a quick blurb about something that happened 4 months ago. Do you really think the RJ should report on everything that the MPD does?
All I have to say is that I’m not going to sweep the issue under the rug. . I’ll do what’s ever necessary to inform the public. That’ if the people want to hear about what’s going on in this community.
Cherrybarbs, the R/J reports the news. If you want to be the town crier, fine, but don't expect everyone to listen.
MeridenMatt
05-01-2008, 07:57 PM
Well, Meridenmatt you’re a supposed newcomer, and of the post that out there. You choose Crime in Meriden to make your defense for R..J. How interesting. All I have to say is that I’m not going to sweep the issue under the rug. . I’ll do what’s ever necessary to inform the public. That’ if the people want to hear about what’s going on in this community. [Nice Try]
What do you mean a "supposed newcomer"? Are you accusing me of being an "insider" for the RJ? I dont think so. I've been reading the forums here for a little while and this one just stuck out as one I wanted to respond to. I'm friends with several cops in Meriden and have been on a few ride alongs. I dont thing the RJ should write about every call the MPD gets. Do you think papers in big cities such as NY report every stabbing or arrest that was made? You havent answered my question about what those links are supposed to prove.
Welcome to the jungle Matt!! :D
MeridenMatt
05-01-2008, 08:49 PM
Thanks jma.
I was lurking for a bit, but couldnt stop myself from adding on this one.
Charles E. Peevyhouse
05-01-2008, 08:54 PM
cherrybarbs,
Go to Meriden PD, ask for Mike Zak. He can either help you or point you in the right direction. Ask for the FOI on any arrests made and/or outcomes. I believe that the information is public. Hearing things on the scanner can be misleading. You should get the facts of the case report before bringing this to public attention. I believe the case reports are public information and what are used to write the police blotter in the paper. I don't exactly know what is and what is not public. But I know there is public information available for crimes committed in Meriden.
I think you will find many of these to be false alarms or exaggerated circumstances. If not, you will find the correct information through FOI.
eds is correct. The majority of police records and reports are subject to FOI. Further Connecticut General Statutes Section 1-210 is the guiding statutory authority used to determine if a particular report or record falls within the narrowly construed exceptions to disclosure.
cherrybarbs
05-01-2008, 09:34 PM
So what I am hearing is, nobody wants to know about the stabbings, drive bys, break-ins and all the 1800’s that’s out there. That’s fine, I think their people that do. I have been on a few ride alongs myself and if have, then you know whats going on out there too. And if you click on those links, all but the Wis. Newspaper story, it shows you some of what’s going on here. I’ll Dispo. this for now.
MeridenMatt
05-01-2008, 09:46 PM
The links are over a year old, is that supposed to give me an idea of whats going on out there? 10-33 is an emergency code, why did you ask that?
Cherrybarbs, you should play nicer with new members. :rolleyes:
MeridenMatt
05-01-2008, 10:25 PM
Take a look:
http://www.wfsb.com/news/10736764/detail.html
and
http://www.wfsb.com/news/10962934/detail.html
The first one is from 1/12/07 and the other is from 2/8/07. That looks like older than a year to me.
I though we were talking police, do you know what 10 codes are? 10-33 is usually some kind of emergency. I dont do chat rooms, so I dont know what it means there.
You’re not 10- 33 are you. Ok then, I’ll Dispo. this for now.[/QUOTE]
Cherrybarbs, you sound a bit 10-75 yourself. Perhaps you should give 15A a 10-6, or just ask for a 10-3. 10-4? :eek:
cherrybarbs
05-01-2008, 11:39 PM
I thought 10 -33 is either drunk or under the influence, but I just heard a call come in, its 10-75, your right Meridenmatt some of it is old news. But you guys know what’s going on here.. It’s late I been up since 4:30 this morning, perhaps in need to go to 15a maybe I'll call a 10-3 Gas is high. But I'm sure I could have used a 10-8, writing with you fellows. :D
Chriss P
05-02-2008, 07:21 AM
What started me into scanning was we were having all sorts of police activity in our condo complex here in Middletown. We had about 15 calls one month so I went to the condo meeting to see what happened and the result of the riot I called in.
Turns out the police report was BLANK!!! NOTHING!!!
The police were not even bothering to file reports. And this went on until they eventually said we get no more reports when we complained.
So to stay informed, I got me a scanner and was horrified by calls for drug and gun activity surrounding a particular few units near mine.
The solution was to inform management of every important call but at the same time obeying the laws so as not to disclose too much personal info. There are strict laws to what you can and can not disclose to people when listening to the scanner. A few of us did this for a period of time just to prove the police reports were inadequat for us to judge the safety of the complex.
Result: We hired a security guard during periods of high criminal activity 9pm to 2am in the summer months and it cleaned up the place as the guard was quite good.
10 codes are slightly different for each community. Each department uses them differently. I knew the 10 codes in Danbury for a while being a firefighter there and also moonlighting as an armed guard.
For example, 88 was base. 25 was MVA and then each letter meant the level, as in 25 charlie (25C) was MVA with injury. Those are the ones that stick out in my head given that is what FD responded to mostly.
Before we too much OT, I will say that "scan alongs" really **** off cops because people are appearing at the scene and getting involved in something dangerous.
I will not believe anything unless it's in writing.
Chriss P
05-02-2008, 08:31 AM
Scanalong?
We had a stranger in the complex knocking on doors asking to use the phone for a period of 3 weeks. He was going around to top floor units. Very strange. I knew of this. A call came in and I wanted a glimpse of the guy.
I walked out of my unit to the area. The cops came in and gave me a strange look as if I may be the culprit.
Absolutely right Eds. Stay away; as if they chased me , the culprit would have gotten away. He was told to leave and never comeback.
collie
05-02-2008, 11:28 AM
I have enough nightmares without listening to police scanners. Chris gave a good example of how they can be used to prove a need for extra security. Sounds like you have daunting research project on your hands, Cherrybarbs. A lot of doubting Thomases. I would think the neighborhood associations would be interested.
If proven true, I am sure there would be a lot of interested parties myself included. I have no time at time point. Too busy posting here! :D:D:D Seriously though...no time.
"scan alongs" is a term used by an officer I knew in Danbury who used it to describe wanna-be cops using the scanner to conveniently be in the action and claim "good samaritan law" status, which in CT allows anyone to assist another in need.
cherrybarbs
05-02-2008, 12:59 PM
I will agree to a point, a lot of calls come in like 911 hang ups, out of control kids at Rushford, vandalism, stolen items from property and fights at our schools. Most of these don’t go on record, because either the person who made the call wants to remain anonymous or its goes on a separate file to keep a record of it’s on going consistency. Also you got to remember that it takes a long time to fill out a report. I could tell you first hand, when I put calls in for fights or vandalism, etc .at the skate park, the dispatcher would wait 20 to 30 mins. or more before they would send an Officer to the scene. And most of the time, they wouldn’t send anyone at all! I did contact the Westside neighborhood association, Dave told me to get my neighbors together and fight back. However many of them are old and afraid to get involved. Others say, as long it’s not affecting them [like the crime issue] they don’t care. My problem is, I still do!
I think the idea of videotaping what's going on at the skate park was a great idea. It'll have to be done carefully, though. No drug dealer wants to be seen on video. Someone in the Hobart Street neighborhood association did the same thing years ago, and it made a huge impact on police response and prosecution.
Chriss P
05-02-2008, 07:25 PM
The strangest call I heard was on July 4th we were listening to New Britain. Someone actually tried to steal a lady's AC unit while it was actually running. They tried to pull it from her window.
Scariest call heard. Glastonbury cop that was shot about 2am buy a guy who stole his gun. I woke up to hearing him calling out for anyones help on his scanner. The tone of his voice sent chills thru me. Today Glastonbury is digital.
Scanning lets you hear what type of crimes are being comitted and know were the hot spots are. I tried to get an official watch going and a brick wall was thrown up. I was told my complex was not that bad; I knew otherwise. I believe the police may have used a few of the drug users in my complex to track to the big guys and they didn't want to spoil this operation unless it was in a more affluent area.
cherrybarbs
05-07-2008, 11:19 PM
Sodom brook and many others rivers and streams are always going to be dumping grounds for people that can care less. I once saw a landscaping trunk,dump Hazardous waste in there I did call the D.E.P they say it’s a Police matter, the Police it’s a D.E.P. problem. Basically no one was the resources to deal with it, just like the killing of the deer in our area. .That’s why I’m in favor of putting cameras up. It may help with this and other crime issues, that many people think we don’t have.:confused:
Chriss P
05-08-2008, 07:05 AM
Ide like to know the composition of the waste dumped into the brook. Any idea (cleaning fluids, cutting fluids, spent auto fluids, benzenes, etc). If the DEP puts Alewivces in Hanover they may want to know if its actually hazardous waste.
You can put cameras up sure, but if DEP pushes it to the police and the police pushes it to DEP then we need to address that first. Nobody wants to spend the money or increase the budget to increase police personnel. So what do we do? Look at the allocation of police personnel and if they can't handle all the calls that come in, then why not hire more police and raise the budget to pay for it. Either we do that or we allow citizens to be "deputized" to act as enforcers.
That is why I am for privatization of police as well as citizen patrols. We need to start policing our own neighborhoods with the authority necessary to make change. The police want to corner the market on arrest powers, yet, it is a well known point of law that the police are under no obligation to protect you at all times. If they won't or can't provide the level of service we need to maintain and improve our neighborhoods, then we need to do it ourselves or it won't get done.
RC12L4
05-08-2008, 10:09 AM
You can put cameras up sure, but if DEP pushes it to the police and the police pushes it to DEP then we need to address that first. Nobody wants to spend the money or increase the budget to increase police personnel. So what do we do? Look at the allocation of police personnel and if they can't handle all the calls that come in, then why not hire more police and raise the budget to pay for it. Either we do that or we allow citizens to be "deputized" to act as enforcers.
That is why I am for privatization of police as well as citizen patrols. We need to start policing our own neighborhoods with the authority necessary to make change. The police want to corner the market on arrest powers, yet, it is a well known point of law that the police are under no obligation to protect you at all times. If they won't or can't provide the level of service we need to maintain and improve our neighborhoods, then we need to do it ourselves or it won't get done.
We should police things like they do in Texas.
http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=1987d71a-648f-4891-bd97-ec8d71985ccf
"The shop owner is not facing any charges."
Good for the carpenter! But they called him a vigilante. A vigilante takes the law into their own hands without benefit of due process. How would anyone propose due process in this case. A person breaks into the shop, beats the dog with a pipe, and then what? You as shop owner just watch helplessly while the police get there? After the dog, maybe the shop owner was next. What then? Beg for your life like a coward? Like a sheep? Self-defense is not vigilantism. It is determination. Determination of one's own fate.
Chriss P
05-08-2008, 05:48 PM
Its common sense
The easiest way to get more officers on the street is to prioritize calls. Many departments are now eliminating responses to home alarms. I don't mean panic alarms, I mean the standard alarm. The vast majority of these are false alarms, anyway. If you check the blotter, you'll see that officers are responding to several a shift. Those calls should be privitized. Why not have a security company check the home instead of officers? Not every resident can afford a security system, yet much of our police resources are going towards those that can. I have a security system, but don't think I deserve any more police protection than anyone else.
cherrybarbs
05-08-2008, 09:43 PM
Very well said jma, every time they respond to false alarms or 911 hang ups its takes away 2 officers. I know in Cheshire they charge the businesses and homeowners every time they have to respond to these types of calls that are false. I just turned on my scanner, the first thing I heard was a 911 hang up from a 6 year old playing with the phone. I don’t know if they issue tickets here for the same thing. I think outsourcing some of our Police calls for things like this would help ease the Police Budget and allow them to focus on more serious crimes. As far as the hazardous waste in Sodom brook, they dump a white liquid foam and it smelled like sulfuric acid of some sort. As I read in the Record Journal today, in the Readers’ Opinions about city crime, one woman wrote, “My husband and I moved from Bridgeport in 2001 to escape all the crime and havoc there. I’m starting to see the situation here in Meriden. This used to be a quiet place to live in. Now, at night, I hear the same noises I once heard in Bridgeport – fire trucks and police sirens all night! I hope the crime rate hasn’t reached that high.” This was written by Sharon Jefferson McKoy of Meriden. Well I’m afraid the crime rate is going to reach that high, and it is only a matter of time.
If we think of a police officer as a doctor, then what is the equivalent of a nurse or EMT in law enforcement? As an analogy, you don't bring in a high priced, highly skilled surgeon to put a band-aid on a cut. Lesser skilled but still qualified at their level and less costly personnel are used. Whatever the equivalent of that is in law enforcement should be used.
Let's call it a para-police officer or PPO for short. The PPO would be the equivalent of an armed guard. Respond to so-called silly calls quickly to asses the situation and then call for backup. They could stop a crime in progress if necessary. They could apprehend and arrest but only in relation to the call. They don't patrol regularly. They just wait for so-called silly calls.
See what I am getting at? I probably don't have all the details fleshed out, but you get the idea. These PPOs would be like semi-police officers. You could hire a lot more of them for a lot less money because they receive less training, but enough training to get the job done. They can be part time too.
I don't know for sure, but it sounds like a good idea to me. These citizen officer types could patrol if they wanted to. Concerned citizens groups perhaps? I have a CNN brief on DVD in which citizens are allowed to use police radar guns to patrol their streets, take down license plates, and then give the plates to the police. The police send them a warning in the mail. Something like that except allow them to investigate false alarms etc...
In Lee County Florida, the sheriff's department has a completely volunteer force. These trained men and women respond to minor traffic accidents, house alarms, direct traffic, etc. When they drive through neighborhoods, it gives more of a "police presence. I'm sure the police union up here would raise a stink about it, but as taxpayers, we should have the opportunity look into this type of service.
cherrybarbs
05-09-2008, 07:20 PM
I didn’t know if anyone saw this on the news today! But these kinds of things are happing more and more in Meriden http://www.nbc30.com/news/16216228/detail.html?dl=headlineclick Right now theirs 101 people on the Sex Offender Registry list in Meriden that they know about. [In Lee County Florida, the sheriff's department has a completely volunteer force] I like that idea, but your right the unions would never go for it. Also I like to know why Meriden doesn’t have a K-9 unit, I always hear them call Middletown, Southington and Wallingford for their Dogs to look for suspects?. K-9s are very useful not only to find criminals, but also for search and rescue. I cant understand why they wouldn’t invest in a wonderful tool such as this. http://www.pbase.com/image/17658594
Charles E. Peevyhouse
05-09-2008, 07:40 PM
I believe that the K9 unit went bye-bye after one of the dogs bite another officer. That is my vague recollection. It may be wrong.
Some of the handlers were reckless, and there were too many bites where the City had to pay a settlement. The City decided it was too expensive, (considering it is self-insured) to have the dogs. It's a shame, because there were a few good handlers that did great work.
So crime wins over insurance regulations and cost.
Go figure...
cherrybarbs
05-13-2008, 02:39 PM
To the good people of Meriden, this is the second time in a week that I heard a thief taking gas from peoples vehicles, this person operates in the day has well in the night hours. I would suggest if you got an older car like me, you might want to put a gas cap on that uses a key.;)
RC12L4
05-13-2008, 03:00 PM
To the good people of Meriden, this is the second time in a week that I heard a thief taking gas from peoples vehicles, this person operates in the day has well in the night hours. I would suggest if you got an older car like me, you might want to put a gas cap on that uses a key.;)
Where are you getting your information from?
Charles E. Peevyhouse
05-14-2008, 10:25 PM
Where are you getting your information from?
You know what they say about snitches and informants and how they get the information.
http://members.cox.net/blank.man/LuckyLuciano.jpg
cherrybarbs
05-19-2008, 09:39 PM
Skate Park vandalized
By: Andrew Perlot, Record-Journal staff, 11:39 a.m.
05/19/2008
"MERIDEN- The skate park on Coe Avenue has been vandalized. The park was spray painted with obscene pictures and language over the weekend."
How sad, these kinds of things have been happen for years now, I was against having an unsupervised skate park in our neighborhood. With all the money the City spent so far on this one, the kids could have had a nice, safe indoor place .I’m sure private companies would have help paid for it, with advertising and sponsors. But let’s see were this story goes, I managed to save a lot of my emails over the years fighting this issue.
Chriss P
05-20-2008, 06:17 AM
Close the park for a week and post a reward poster and offer a $50 reward or something like that. Then fine em $500 when caught.
Very disturbing when crap like that happens.
Common Sense
05-20-2008, 10:55 AM
There is an indoor skateboarding facility in Bristol. Skateboarder's with vehicles may want to use that one as an alternative until the issue with Coe Ave is resolved.
cherrybarbs
05-20-2008, 11:03 PM
Now that skate park issue is over, which was fast? I often say we live in a fly by night society, here today gone tomorrow. Then we wonder why so many kids are in D.C.F custody. The U.S. has nearly a million throw away kids no one wants. I hear it almost every day, my 8 year old is beating me, my 15 yr son won’t go to school, and my daughters threaten to kill me. The Police should not be babysitters or social workers. I often wonder who the real delinquents are, in this sad world we live in?
Now that skate park issue is over, which was fast? I often say we live in a fly by night society, here today gone tomorrow. Then we wonder why so many kids are in D.C.F custody. The U.S. has nearly a million throw away kids no one wants. I hear it almost every day, my 8 year old is beating me, my 15 yr son won’t go to school, and my daughters threaten to kill me. The Police should not be babysitters or social workers. I often wonder who the real delinquents are, in this sad world we live in?
You're absolutely correct! Can you imagine how much more effective our officers would be against crime if they weren't raising other people's kids? I'm stunned that parents call the police to force their kids to go to school.
cherrybarbs
05-21-2008, 10:52 AM
This also works the other way too; the Supreme Court took away our rights to discipline our kids. Now parents are face with risk of injury to a minor, which is felony. You hear how many calls come in, my mother won’t let out of the house, my dad slap me I understand that there’s a lot abuse that goes on too, but were do we draw the line. For my self I say rather deal with my kids at home, or they can deal with them in the places like Rushford. This by the way is a whole another matter. I’m assuming that you know the number of Police calls that go there for disciplinary problems on any given day?
I've maintained for years that the police station should have been built at the old Jefferson school. I envisioned a section of the building for programs exactly like Rushford and suspended students. How much fun would it be to get suspended, and have to spend the day in a room attached to the police station? I'm guessing disciplinary problems there would be minimal. Rushford is a HUGE drain on police resources, especially since it's on the outskirts of town.
cherrybarbs
05-21-2008, 12:44 PM
I like that idea, what I have found in today’s youth is that their looking for something to belong to. If there’s no sense of direction at home, teens will look for it on our city streets. If you notice there’s a big spike in the number of calls for criminal mischief and related offenses, when school is out. Today most of the kids are latchkey, so I’m not surprised! The only solutions I see is, arrest or fine the parents, put colorful jumpsuits on them and give them community service, theirs a lot of trash on our City streets or send them here! http://www.youngmarines.com/ :D
RC12L4
05-21-2008, 01:31 PM
I like that idea, what I have found in today’s youth is that their looking for something to belong to. If there’s no sense of direction at home, teens will look for it on our city streets. If you notice there’s a big spike in the number of calls for criminal mischief and related offenses, when school is out. Today most of the kids are latchkey, so I’m not surprised! The only solutions I see is, arrest or fine the parents, put colorful jumpsuits on them and give them community service, theirs a lot of trash on our City streets or send them here! http://www.youngmarines.com/ :D
What about outlawing rap music, just doing that you'll see a 70% decline in crime. Or so I've been told.
What about outlawing rap music, just doing that you'll see a 70% decline in crime. Or so I've been told.
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
cherrybarbs
05-21-2008, 06:00 PM
Well I gave you everything about gangster rap music and crime stats, but as you can see from other post we’re not the only against it. Now there are other types of rap music I find descent. The thing we hate is, when we hear your boom-box cars blasting your music. That shows us that you have no respect for your community. Disturbing the peace use to be a crime in my day, but times has changed. I wouldn’t be so concerned with this RC12L4, like you said were just “bitter middle aged folks” who want to move to seek what we once had here in Meriden,a nice ,quiet and safe place to raise our families.;)
RC12L4
05-21-2008, 09:25 PM
Well I gave you everything about gangster rap music and crime stats, but as you can see from other post we’re not the only against it. Now there are other types of rap music I find descent. The thing we hate is, when we hear your boom-box cars blasting your music. That shows us that you have no respect for your community. Disturbing the peace use to be a crime in my day, but times has changed. I wouldn’t be so concerned with this RC12L4, like you said were just “bitter middle aged folks” who want to move to seek what we once had here in Meriden,a nice ,quiet and safe place to raise our families.;)
It's very hard to take anything you say seriously when you make the claim that 70% of all crime in the United States is caused by rap music. You're just venting right, you don't actually believe that do you?
collie
05-21-2008, 09:29 PM
Congratulations on selling your house Cherrybarbs. Not a great time to try and sell but more and more it looks like the getting out of Meriden would be a good idea.
Congratulations on selling your house Cherrybarbs. Not a great time to try and sell but more and more it looks like the getting out of Meriden would be a good idea.
Collie, I'm disappointed that you would encourage people to give up on Meriden. Times are a bit tough right now, but it's no reason to bail. I live in the inner city of Meriden. I am and will always be a proud resident.
cherrybarbs
05-21-2008, 10:42 PM
Some of the websites I go to, you have to take it with a grain of salt. Remember I was talking about gangster rap music. I found some of there lyrics to be disturbing, then again some might say the same thing about heavy metal or rock and roll, which by the way did no good for sociality either. I remember going to see rock concerts when I was a teen and feeling uncomfortable, I don’t know maybe it was the way I was brought up. Ask the Police Dept. what is their number one complaint is , and its noise in one way or other . I ask a few people in my age group, what’s the reason you’re moving out of Meriden, it was the same thing, noise pollution, crime and taxes came 2nd and the school system came 3rd go figure .
Cherrybarbs, I think the problem was the initial statement that rap music is the cause of crime. None of the links you provided backed up that statement. I agree that loud, booming music is a neighborhood problem and very disturbing. That said, just because a kid blasts hip-hop and rap music doesn't mean he's a gang-banging, drug-dealing criminal. Search the internet for lyrics to a Boogie Down Productions song, "You must learn". You might be surprised to learn that rap music began as a political voice. I'm a middle-aged, white, married female who listens to rap, hip-hop, classic rock, and lots of other music. You may even catch me blasting some Afrika Bambaataa, Sugar Hill Gang, or Grand Master Flash while cleaning my house! Go figure!
cherrybarbs
05-22-2008, 09:40 AM
Your right I didn’t make my case very well, there’s a stigma attach to gangster rap music even from its own definition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangsta_rap and when I Google, gangster rap music and crime, there was an endless supply of data to support my case. Then again I have to take everything with a grain of salt, this is the internet world. At least we agree that loud, booming music is a neighborhood problem and it’s very disturbing. We know that’s the first thing will be looking out for in our next home.;)
cherrybarbs
05-22-2008, 10:11 AM
“Congratulations on selling your house Cherrybarbs. Not a great time to try and sell but more and more it looks like the getting out of Meriden would be a good idea."
Thanks collie, Hopefully things will change in Meriden with a new Mayor and City Council some day, then again probably not.:rolleyes:
RC12L4
05-22-2008, 11:35 AM
Your right I didn’t make my case very well, there’s a stigma attach to gangster rap music even from its own definition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangsta_rap and when I Google, gangster rap music and crime, there was an endless supply of data to support my case. Then again I have to take everything with a grain of salt, this is the internet world. At least we agree that loud, booming music is a neighborhood problem and it’s very disturbing. We know that’s the first thing will be looking out for in our next home.;)
What neighborhood are you living in that has all these problems you keep ranting about? I've been back to Meriden for a year and I've yet to encounter the problems you're having on the scale you keep implying.
Also, you know who the biggest consumer is of rap music? Young, white middle to upper middle class males. Keep that in mind when you start looking for your next house in the perfect neighborhood.
collie
05-22-2008, 12:04 PM
I thought of leaving at the BOE meeting the other night and I never thought the thought would cross my mind .... becuase I do love it here and I grew up here. However, the taxes are brutal and the public education increasingly substandard. How many of you have kids here? I do.
Kids? Yes, I will soon...in about 6 months.
cherrybarbs
05-22-2008, 01:03 PM
“The biggest consumer is of rap music? Young, white middle to upper middle class males” I’m not surprised, but instead of going nowhere with this is issue. We bought stocks in this, the C.E.O. are making some big $$$ off this industry. So we figure we can make some serious cash too. So we say [Thank You] Collie and eds we did like this City too, but our family comes first, we not going to pay $4000.00++ a year in taxes to live in place like Harford or New haven. Meriden not there yet, but it’s only a matter of time.:o
collie
05-22-2008, 07:00 PM
Congratulations to you and your wife EDS! I thought their might be a new addition to your family coming along by the little hints in your writing.
cherrybarbs
05-22-2008, 08:31 PM
My son was offered to buy dope 3 days in a row by teens that hang there on his why home from school. We made phone calls to the police and the B.O.E; 1500 ft from the school is a school zone still. The Police made appearance for a few days and then were history. The B.O.E. said, we don’t know if these teens are from Meriden or not. When you have a middle school, high school and a skate park all right next to each other with no over sight, that’s drug dealers dream come true! I saw in the yesterday newspaper Chris Bourdon said, it cost $194.95 to clean that mess, who is he kidding, what, did the Parks and Rec’s Department work for free, and you can’t paint a dog house for that! I love how he tried to down play it when he said; the skate park was built by state money. Hello, that’s still Taxpayers money. Just heard a call come in 2 Officers were sent to the skate park because older teens on bikes were bullying the younger ones. What’s is it going to take to get some proper supervision there?:mad:
Congratulations to you and your wife EDS! I thought their might be a new addition to your family coming along by the little hints in your writing.
Thanks! The reason I am most interested in education, schools, and crime.
cherry, yes being offered to buy drugs is disturbing. But let's not go whacko. I was offered to buy drugs in high school. I was offered a joint by a friend of mine as an adult. Being offered drugs can happen at any time. Point is that you teach your kid to say no, and / or take a different route.
Teach your kid to stand tall.
Eds, thanks for the voice of reason. There are drugs in every community, whether or not parents want to admit it.
RC12L4
05-23-2008, 01:02 PM
My son was offered to buy dope 3 days in a row by teens that hang there on his why home from school. We made phone calls to the police and the B.O.E; 1500 ft from the school is a school zone still. The Police made appearance for a few days and then were history. The B.O.E. said, we don’t know if these teens are from Meriden or not. When you have a middle school, high school and a skate park all right next to each other with no over sight, that’s drug dealers dream come true! I saw in the yesterday newspaper Chris Bourdon said, it cost $194.95 to clean that mess, who is he kidding, what, did the Parks and Rec’s Department work for free, and you can’t paint a dog house for that! I love how he tried to down play it when he said; the skate park was built by state money. Hello, that’s still Taxpayers money. Just heard a call come in 2 Officers were sent to the skate park because older teens on bikes were bullying the younger ones. What’s is it going to take to get some proper supervision there?:mad:
I'll one up you.
When I was in school I was offered drugs IN SCHOOL!! Can you believe that? Stop pointing to the skate park as the root of all the problems, the problems are everywhere but it's just easier to point at the skate park and say "Yeah that's the problem"
cherrybarbs
05-23-2008, 03:57 PM
We know that drugs are everywhere, one guy jump out in front of our car on West Main Street to buy crack. The point we were trying to make is, there are different parts of Meriden that you can access them more easer. When we were in high school teens did a better job trying to conceal it, the ones we see at the skate park, sell and smoke dope right out in the open. You think parents would have better judgment then let there kids hang out there without any supervision, and then again this is a different world.:eek:
RC12L4
05-23-2008, 04:01 PM
We know that drugs are everywhere, one guy jump out in front of our car on West Main Street to buy crack. The point we were trying to make is, there are different parts of Meriden that you can access them more easer. When we were in high school teens did a better job trying to conceal it, the ones we see at the skate park, sell and smoke dope right out in the open. You think parents would have better judgment then let there kids hang out there without any supervision, and then again this is a different world.:eek:
You need a hobby.
cherrybarbs
05-23-2008, 04:57 PM
RC12L4 we did take up a hobby, fishing but, I and my son were fishing at Hanover pond the other day and we where being shot at with be- be guns!:mad: ]
So today’s news on 5/24, there has been multiple break-in’s thought the city and a few hit and runs.So watch out for your neighbors, that would be nice, one lady came home and the guy was still in the house. As its gets warmer the crime rate will worsen and its getting towards the end of the month, for some reason crime rate seems to double then .
RC12L4
05-23-2008, 05:09 PM
RC12L4 we did take up a hobby, fishing but, I and my son were fishing at Hanover pond the other day and we where being shot at with be- be guns!:mad: ]
So today’s news on 5/24, there has been multiple break-in’s thought the city and a few hit and runs.So watch out for your neighbors, that would be nice, one lady came home and the guy was still in the house. As its gets warmer the crime rate will worsen and its getting towards the end of the month, for some reason crime rate seems to double then .
If you keep looking for the worst in life you'll find it. I think it's pretty apparent that no matter how much the city of Meriden does you'll never be satisfied.
cherrybarbs
05-23-2008, 05:53 PM
We weren’t always like this, there was a time where we didn’t lock our doors, even let the keys in the car and that wasn’t 50 years ago either, that was just about 8 yrs or so ago. Joe Marnian was our Mayor then. We didn’t like him too much, even voted against him in 2001 for Mark B……t .But one thing he did was, he clean up this City, some say he went to far, we thought so too. However after what we have today, we vote for someone like that again in a heartbeat.
RC12L4
05-23-2008, 06:13 PM
We weren’t always like this, there was a time where we didn’t lock our doors, even let the keys in the car and that wasn’t 50 years ago either, that was just about 8 yrs or so ago. Joe Marnian was our Mayor then. We didn’t like him too much, even voted against him in 2001 for Mark B……t .But one thing he did was, he clean up this City, some say he went to far, we thought so too. However after what we have today, we vote for someone like that again in a heartbeat.
Like I said, no matter what this city does you're not going to be happy.
Charles E. Peevyhouse
05-23-2008, 08:23 PM
We weren’t always like this, there was a time where we didn’t lock our doors, even let the keys in the car and that wasn’t 50 years ago either, that was just about 8 yrs or so ago. Joe Marnian was our Mayor then. We didn’t like him too much, even voted against him in 2001 for Mark B……t .But one thing he did was, he clean up this City, some say he went to far, we thought so too. However after what we have today, we vote for someone like that again in a heartbeat.
Lets Play: Who was mayor When
The latin kings shoot up the mills
The Diabalo's and James Gang feud
These are the only ones I can remember. Having lived here, as well as my entire family, for my whole life, I find the good Ole day's argument absurd.
By the way, as the economy further tanks, crime will get worst, as the economy recovers crime goes down, so is the city really the reason for the crime or are there possibly other factors at play.
cherrybarbs
05-23-2008, 10:05 PM
I would say times got were better with Joe, but he wasn’t the only reason. We had an excellent Police Chief named Robert Kosienski, who by the way lives in this City. I would agree with you the economy is a big factor for our crime wave. That’s why you need stronger leadership in good times and bad. As far as your answer to your ? “So is the city really the reason for the crime or are there possibly other factors at play.” we wont go there;)
RC12L4
05-24-2008, 06:58 AM
I blame rap music.
Modica
05-24-2008, 09:19 AM
It's all RC12L4's fault.
cherrybarbs
06-10-2008, 02:09 PM
We been hearing a lot of calls come in for false firebox alarms, those things are dinosaurs. The city must be wasting a lot of gas running to them, not to mention if there are real Emergencies some were else! They should take them out, we bet there worth some money too.
RC12L4
06-10-2008, 02:25 PM
We been hearing a lot of calls come in for false firebox alarms, those things are dinosaurs. The city must be wasting a lot of gas running to them, not to mention if there are real Emergencies some were else! They should take them out, we bet there worth some money too.
Do bad things happen in life, yes they do. Do I want all the bad news continuously pumped in to my house and brain, absolutely not.
cherrybarbs
06-10-2008, 02:55 PM
Yes we know, people in today’s world seem to be cold as ice, with no feelings to anything, but to themselves. How do people do it, is there a special drug or something?
Chriss P
06-10-2008, 05:14 PM
I watched a documentary about Nanking last month. There are Japanese solidiers today that participated and tell stories of the cruelest acts towards the Chinese citizens with a smirk on thier face and seem to be making fun of the Chinese IMO.
I'm almost inclined to say there is a gene for creulty and unkindness. I could not believe what I was seeing and hearing.
I'll give you $50 bucks for one...
cherrybarbs
06-10-2008, 05:41 PM
What about all the calls coming in for kids opening hydrants, the fire dept. keeps responding to close them, That’s another waste of gas, we don’t know what the solution is, but in Hartford and other Cities they put a sprinkler on the hydrants.
How about cuffs on the wrists instead?
cherrybarbs
06-10-2008, 06:19 PM
That would be the best choice, either that or give them a fine !:mad:
It's a felony to tamper with the fire hydrants, I'd go straight for the cuffs. People think it's just kids trying to keep cool--no big deal. What people don't realize is the danger this put others in. If they damage the thread on the hydrant, the next firefighter to open it could get severely injured.
And water costs money. It's called stealing water. The same thing if you tapped the water line coming into your house before the water meter. Very illegal.
cherrybarbs
06-11-2008, 09:21 AM
We feel bad that a 6 year old was hurt, but where were the parents. To try to blame the firefighter for her injuries, we think is going a bit far. We also heard if you open a fire hydrant it reduces water pressure to the other ones, if that’s the case, GOD forbid if someone’s house is on fire.
whalers44
06-12-2008, 01:57 PM
When the fire dept goes out on a call for open fire hydrant, why do they take out the big trucks. Most if not all stations have suv's or something that they can take out and shut these things off...that would save much more fuel. Summer is just beginning folks!!!
As a firefighter in Danbury for several years, let me try to address that. If personnel in the company takes the SUV, and assuming there is a hydrant and spanner wrench kit on board, that leaves personnel away from their rig. A call comes in and they need to rush back and get the rig, then go to the call. Taking the rig allows the department to remain in service and ready for calls. You never leave your rig. Each engine has a span of control for a neighborhood so they are always ready to handle calls while out on assignment, *with* the rig. We used to clean out around hydrants during the winter months, test hydrants during the summer months, and every time we always took the engine out for that very reason. We can respond effectively. The life of a firefighter is not all about fighting fires and saving babies. That's what the public sees. The life of a firefighter is all about maintaining your equipment, inspecting hoses, cleaning rigs, and ensuring that you are always ready to respond to a call. Those SUVs are ususally reserved for incident commanders under the FEMA incident command system. Also for traffic duty around fire scenes. They are used for transport while the rig is handling a call. Ladder trucks are usually left in the bay. Engines are used to go to the store for food even. Sometimes ladder trucks also go out too. Department SOPs are always followed as to what vehicles are used but always to maintain a level of readiness and not just looking at fuel costs. Saving a dime on fuel can put people's lives at risk.
And technically its called an apparatus, engine, ladder (aerial), pumper, tanker, etc. Rig is just a generic term.
We feel bad that a 6 year old was hurt, but where were the parents. To try to blame the firefighter for her injuries, we think is going a bit far. We also heard if you open a fire hydrant it reduces water pressure to the other ones, if that’s the case, GOD forbid if someone’s house is on fire.
It does in a way, but the pump operator can adjust pressures on the apparatus to compensate.
cherrybarbs
06-12-2008, 07:55 PM
Thanks eds for the clear up, now what about all the bicycles being stolen throughout Meriden. We had 2 taking from our back yard this week. We read about a mother’s plea to give her sons bike back, that was stolen from her front yard in the newspaper. And just heard someone put a gun to a kid at the skate park for his bike. A lot of kids today are sick or something, but like whalers44 said ,“summer is just beginning folks!!!”
MeridenMatt
06-12-2008, 09:13 PM
I wouldnt be surprised if the firefighter was playing around with the kids and turned up the preasure. I absolutely dont think he would have done it maliciously but I even do it to my kids with the hose, I turn it way down and get them to come close and them blast them with it. It's all in good fun, but I really dont think he would have turned it up to try and hurt or scare those kids.
I think he was probably trying to show the kids how dangerous it could be and it backfired. I'm sure his intentions were good, but not well thought out. Now instead of the parents being held responsible for their kids breaking the law, they'll cash in on it.
cherrybarbs
06-14-2008, 01:43 PM
We talk with the victim's father, the 19 old told his kid he had a 38 [gun] and demanded his bike ,then push him off and took it. The son said the older teens have been coming to the skate park and robbing him and other kids for money, cell phones, est. And if they don’t pay or give them up, there are threaten with bodily harm or death. How much more of this are we going to take!!!!:mad:
Chriss P
06-15-2008, 06:52 AM
Advice for bike security at home. Dont us cables of any sort to secure a bike. All of them (100%) can be easily cut in 10 seconds. Use the big orange plastic coated chain from HD with a heavy duty lock.
For on the road security use that heavy duty u-shaped lock.
collie
06-15-2008, 02:50 PM
Course it helps if they let you get off the bike and lock it up.
RC12L4
06-16-2008, 09:17 AM
Advice for bike security at home. Dont us cables of any sort to secure a bike. All of them (100%) can be easily cut in 10 seconds. Use the big orange plastic coated chain from HD with a heavy duty lock.
For on the road security use that heavy duty u-shaped lock.
The heavy duty u-shaped locks have been known to be defeated with a simple Bic Ball Point pen. Make sure you do some research before purchasing one.
cherrybarbs
06-19-2008, 08:47 PM
Why should we real lie on other news sources to get what’s happen here? http://www.courant.com/news/local/mr/middletown/hc-midingram0619.artjun19,0,6160708.story
MeridenMatt
06-19-2008, 10:23 PM
Real lie do you mean rely??? And besides, that isnt Meriden news. Although the guy happens to be from Meriden, the abuse that he was charged with happened in Middletown.
collie
06-19-2008, 10:45 PM
Interesting article, to say the least. Poor Cherrybarbs, your critics pick on the spelling and dismiss the content of the article because the Meriden man did his alleged molestation of three boys in Middletown. Considering the man lived on Broad Street and worked in Meriden, I agree with Cherrybarbs that this is newsworthy Meriden reading!
Any Meriden resident's arrest for sexual assault should be reported in the R/J. The fact that he was "caught" in Middletown doesn't mean he didn't commit the crime here. I would appreciate the information, especially if I lived near him.
cherrybarbs
06-20-2008, 09:08 AM
Thanks guys, we thought that was newsworthy too and you bet we would like to know , if sick people like that are living close by.
Common Sense
06-21-2008, 11:07 AM
I can't verify that anyone has been robbed at gun point at the Coe Ave skate park. Was this reported to the police or reported in the Record Journal? If so I missed it. All crimes should be reported and I believe most of the kids probably have cell phones. I believe that part of the problem with the Meriden park is that some of it was funded with State money. Wallingford will be able to restrict their's because they are funding it themselves.
Any Meriden resident's arrest for sexual assault should be reported in the R/J. The fact that he was "caught" in Middletown doesn't mean he didn't commit the crime here. I would appreciate the information, especially if I lived near him.
The person has done absolutely nothing wrong until convicted in a court of law. Right now its all just allegations.
An article on KIRO Seattle spoke of a woman who beat a neighbor with a bat because the neighbor was on a sex offender registry living next door. She wanted to protect her children from that neighbor because the neighbor said Hi to her daughter. Now she's charged with felonies and is worried who will take care of her daughter if she goes to jail. Ironic, eh?
Here's the link: http://www.kirotv.com/news/16658145/detail.html
Ignorance may be bliss, but I'd still rather be informed. What I do with the information reveals my character, not the character of the accused.
Ignorance may be bliss, but I'd still rather be informed. What I do with the information reveals my character, not the character of the accused.
When it comes to kids, I distrust anyone I don't know right off the bat. On a registry or not. Before a sex offender committed any crime, the sex offender wasn't on any list. I don't want my kid to be the one that gets the sex offender on the list to start. The registry serves no purpose if you are parenting correctly. One shouldn't let their kids be alone with any strangers.
cherrybarbs
06-30-2008, 04:00 PM
After talking with several Police Officers this week, they explained that there aren’t enough Police to do regular patrols and traffic enforcements. Meriden as 116 Officers, of that, take away the Sergeants, Detectives and Officers on private duty and you got about 28 Officers per shift. To have an affective Police force, you need 2 Officers for every 1000 citizens. Meriden has about 59,000 people, so you need about 40 Officers per shift. So with all the calls they have to respond too, they do a very good job and the reason they use cell phones a lot, Meriden has many dead spots and theirs a lot of cases they can not put over the air for safety concerns.And about our post, “informing the public”, well there has to be a good relationship with law enforcement and the media, but you can get the record of all the arrest, inside the police station or though the States website. One thing is for sure, don’t count on one resource for your local news.
28 officers per shift??? Not even close! The day shift is lucky to have 9officers. The City is divided into 8 districts, with officers assigned to each one. The extra officer sits at the front desk.
cherrybarbs
06-30-2008, 10:47 PM
We used 28 to be conservative, we know the numbers are low, which is real sad since the City can find money for every fruitless project that comes along, but they can’t fund an adequate Police force! We thought we’d write this so the public knows if they call the Police and they don’t respond, especially on a Friday or Saturday night it's because they don’t have enough Officers!
cherrybarbs
07-01-2008, 01:44 PM
With our local media putting so much coverage on Mark Benigni departure, we thought we inform you on another shooting in Meriden http://www.wfsb.com/news/16743199/detail.html Also there was a stabbing last night 6/30/08 somewhere around 200 – 220 broad street and today 7/1/08 a man was beaten and robbed by 4 males, Police were able to catch the suspects. Nice job by our short staff Police force.
factsonly06450
07-02-2008, 10:08 AM
With our local media putting so much coverage on Mark Benigni departure, we thought we inform you on another shooting in Meriden http://www.wfsb.com/news/16743199/detail.html
That incident was an attempted suicide- unfortunate, but not an indication of crime in Meriden.
factsonly06450
07-02-2008, 10:15 AM
After talking with several Police Officers this week, they explained that there aren’t enough Police to do regular patrols and traffic enforcements. Meriden as 116 Officers, To have an affective Police force, you need 2 Officers for every 1000 citizens. Meriden has about 59,000 people, .
At the rate of two officers for every 1000 residents, Meriden should have 118 officers. The authorized force level for Meriden is 125 sworn officers, exceeding that standard. There are a number of vacancies because of retirements, which are in the process of being filled. The number of sworn officers in command positions or with adminstrative duties has been significantly reduced in the last few years.
The Meriden ratio of sworn officers to resdidents exceeds that of any surrounding community.
RC12L4
07-02-2008, 11:27 AM
That incident was an attempted suicide- unfortunate, but not an indication of crime in Meriden.
This is a reason why listening to a police scanner or scouring the internet for "incidents" of crime in Meriden is not a good measuring stick for actual crime activity in Meriden.
Suicide shouldn't be a crime. It should be legal. We do more for a dog than a human. They try to claim guns in households increases the chance of someone committing suicide with them and that other means are less successful. That if we banned guns that people wouldn't kill themselves and wouldn't try other means because they are not as successful. I don't think people who are intent on killing themselves weigh their options for suicide. They will try what ever they have on hand. If they don't have guns it will be something else that is not as successful. I would think you would want them to be successful rather than making themselves vegetables and wards of the state costing taxpayer's money. They don't tell you is that failed attempts sometimes end up causing severe brain damage. If someone is intent on suicide then let them.
cherrybarbs
07-02-2008, 01:49 PM
factsonly "The Meriden ratio of sworn officers to resdidents exceeds that of any surrounding community" then why the high crime rate? And facts only maybe you can tell us who the architect of downtown parking lot is? Since crime and corruption seem to go hand and hand. We do have a lot of suicides and attempted suicides here, the age group is 8 to 30 years old on avg. but your right eds “We do more for a dog than a human”
factsonly "The Meriden ratio of sworn officers to resdidents exceeds that of any surrounding community" then why the high crime rate? And facts only maybe you can tell us who the architect of downtown parking lot is? Since crime and corruption seem to go hand and hand. We do have a lot of suicides and attempted suicides here, the age group is 8 to 30 years old on avg. but your right eds “We do more for a dog than a human”
I do mean we allow euthanasia for dogs and cats but not for humans. We let humans suffer until they die. No medical marijuana and no assisted suicide. You can't even do it yourself.
RC12L4
07-02-2008, 02:07 PM
I do mean we allow euthanasia for dogs and cats but not for humans. We let humans suffer until they die. No medical marijuana and no assisted suicide. You can't even do it yourself.
I support medical marijuana....
http://www.freelayouticons.com/graphics/1172784649-pot_leaf.gif
for medical use of course!!
cherrybarbs
07-02-2008, 04:12 PM
RC12L4 We might be in favor of medical marijuana, we heard it does wonders for cancer patients. They try to pass a law in CT not to long ago but failed. We think by legalizing some drugs, it would help the prison overcrowding don’t know if Law Enforcement would agree with this. After all they're on the front lines of this losing battle we got now. As far as your new slogan Hey “Boomers don't worry, we'll pick great nursing homes for you”. Wait till the generation after you, we’re sure they'll have something better for you. http://edition.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/03/04/breaux.cnna/index.html And its got to be worst now, you know how our Government works. But don’t worry yours kids will get a nice pay check from a lawsuit ,while you hanging upside down in dirty diapers you had on for 3 days.:p Yes eds, we need right to die. http://www.worldrtd.net/news/world/?id=440
collie
07-03-2008, 01:29 AM
No one should be surpised by elder abuse from this society of ours - the value is on socalled looks, youth, sex without love, money, material goods, mindless reality TV shows ... You reap what you sow and our American culture does not value its elders as it should, if only for the joy involved. Over that, kill myself I would not! I'll stick around out of pure spite.
No one should be surpised by elder abuse from this society of ours - the value is on socalled looks, youth, sex without love, money, material goods, mindless reality TV shows ... You reap what you sow and our American culture does not value its elders as it should, if only for the joy involved. Over that, kill myself I would not! I'll stick around out of pure spite.
That's the spirit! Give 'em hell collie. Truman would be proud.
tjohnl
07-03-2008, 09:54 AM
Medical Marijuanna has more benefits than just cancer. i understand there is clinical evidence it relieves pressure from glaucoma [sp?]
i had a friend in Ca that was in chemo for cancer: he smoked pot and his recovery was very fast. for the record though, it wasn't too far a stretch for him to be smoking anyway, but there is fact out there to support.
when all else fails, i am all for Dr. Kevorkian methods.
I think the fear about guns & suicide is that if someone is contemplating suicide, a readily available gun may increase the odds. The decision can be made in an irrational, split second, versus swallowing several pills, or taking the time to tie a noose. Even so, don't blame the gun. By the way, I agree completely with patient-assisted suicide. I've seen death & dying up close and personal. I've had a dying relative beg me to kill him. The medical field's zest to defeat death has ignored any quality of life issues. Keep 'em alive at any cost! No thanks and feel free to pull the plug for me!
collie
07-03-2008, 11:15 PM
As a nurse, I can't say I support euthanasia; reminds me of putting dogs down. Took care of terminally ill cats here at home; never put any of them down. Nature takes it own course.
The best alternative is to be pain free, enjoy life til the end. Keep a DNR handy; make arrangements for nothing to be done when it is clear nothing can be done. Lots of people still want tube feedings for family members who are dying; that messes with the body's ability to release its own endorphins in a dehydrated state of dying.
So there is plenty the medical world can legally do. If you don't allow the plug to be put in in the first place, you don't have to worry about conning someone into pulling it for you.
My personal opinion on suicide is I hope no matter what happens to me I wouldn't leave a godawful mess for someone else to clean up. My tendency would I think be to get my house in order. That's in the case of some terminal diagnosis. For others who are despondant, I pray they would reach out to someone and just put one foot in front of the other and work on sorting the mess out.
Dr. Kervorkian gives me the creeps.
Of course I don't want people to commit suicide. But it is there right. So I support that as well.
Wanting to live sometimes is harder than wanting to die.
gene36
07-04-2008, 01:49 PM
If the twenty eight top employes on the BOE were to donate half of their $100,000+ salary back to the city, we could hire twenty eight more police men. Problem solved.:rolleyes:
cherrybarbs
09-25-2008, 01:44 PM
I think the NAAP is going too far on this one, maybe they should go out on some of these calls with the police.They might have a better understanding of what these cops have to go though everyday it's a war zone out there. Just like our troops over seas they may say or do things in the heat of the battle not everyone is going to agree with. But to demote this fine officer or even worst want him fired, goes to show you why law enforcement has a hard time effectively lowing our crime rates. Its bad enough they put their lives on the line for us, now they have to be concern with these special groups who try to make them look like their the criminals. 'HOW SAD'
I think the NAAP is going too far on this one, maybe they should go out on some of these calls with the police.They might have a better understanding of what these cops have to go though everyday it's a war zone out there. Just like our troops over seas they may say or do things in the heat of the battle not everyone is going to agree with. But to demote this fine officer or even worst want him fired, goes to show you why law enforcement has a hard time effectively lowing our crime rates. Its bad enough they put their lives on the line for us, now they have to be concern with these special groups who try to make them look like their the criminals. 'HOW SAD'
Several officers (some white ones) are already members of the NAACP, so where does that leave your argument? How can you consider roll call the "heat of the battle?" What's so wrong about wanting our officers to be professional?
cherrybarbs
09-25-2008, 09:34 PM
What’s is said in roll call or out on the battle field doesn’t makes much difference to me, every person has their own views and thoughts, maybe he could have used better judgment before saying what he did out loud, I understand he’s a public servant and is held to higher standards. Do I think every officer is perfect, of course not? I think many of us say and do things that we later regret, so I don’t believe he should have been demoted, if he offended some of the other officers that should have been discuss between the rank and file, not with outside groups like the NAACP. I can tell you first hand there are a lot of professionals that offend me, but that doesn’t bother me as long as when I need them they treat me with the same respect as I treat them.
Certain words are so inflammatory in nature, that they are immediately shocking. The word he used is one of them. That is not merely a lack of judgement. Those words are part of a lifestyle. Police officers are hired to protect and serve the entire public, not just the white community. If an officer is found to be racist, how can the community place their trust in him or her? I'm also concerned that only one officer in the report had the integrity to admit that he was offended. Either the other officers are racists too, or covering up for a fellow officer. Neither is appropriate.
Quality officers can get the job done without bigotry. Holding officers to a higher standard doesn't limit them in any way. In fact, it should make their job easier. When the public (ALL of the public) trusts an officer, he or she can get much more accomplished. It's a team effort.
You say you are offended by a lot of professionals, but as long as they treat you the same, it's okay. How many other professionals are given the power to incarcerate you, commit you to a hospital against your will, or even take your life? That much power should only be given to people who have earned the right. It's also a power that can and should be taken away when abused.
cherrybarbs
09-26-2008, 01:53 PM
I would agree with some of your points, the case I make is there not much of a difference from our troops fighting the war over seas and law enforcement fighting the war on crime here, each have to make life or death decisions, be social workers and try to keep the peace, not an easy thing to do. You ask how many professionals have to do the same thing, what about doctors, lawyers E.M.T’s and even politicians make those same decisions, that’s why I say some of them may offend me, here’s one case http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6875358/?GT1=6065 and there’s many more stories like that one. Let me give you other one, what if an unlicensed Mexican just hit a NAACP member or you and someone is injured; are you or they going to call Mexico for help? no your going to call 911 and the police,fire ect are going to be the first ones on the scene and maybe the same officer they want off the force is may have to save thier life. [I know I took that one a bit far] but the point I’m trying to make is we are all racists in one shape or another its doesn’t matter what color, lifestyle, gay/straight, pro life/pro death est. they are, everyone as there own views. We can’t demote or fire every professional in the U.S.A. for that. And as for my defense of the officer, there was no public out cry, no one else wrote about it, so caso cerrado. Oh by the way, did you know you many insurance companies will ask you to take out a slander policy, so much for [FREEDOM OF SPEECH].
we are all racists in one shape or another its doesn’t matter what color, lifestyle, gay/straight, pro life/pro death est. they are, everyone as there own views. We can’t demote or fire every professional in the U.S.A. for that. And as for my defense of the officer, there was no public out cry, no one else wrote about it, so caso cerrado.
The definition of a racist is one who has hatred or intolerance for another race or other races. We are NOT all racists, and it's sad you think it's the case.
You're correct when you state that we can't demote or fire every professional in the USA for racism. I'm not concerned about every one. I'm concerned about the ones that may interact with my friends or family.
Stan Zajac is a good officer, who did a bad thing. He has the opportunity to learn from it, and move on, and I wish him well.
The Department had an obligation to the citizens of Meriden to deal with this directly and decisively, which they did. You often come across as a cop-groupie who believes they can do no wrong, and should be given free reign to do as they wish. I prefer a group of professionals, not a bunch of outlaw renegades who have no standards.
mysharona
09-27-2008, 01:26 AM
Of course I don't want people to commit suicide. But it is there right. So I support that as well.
Wanting to live sometimes is harder than wanting to die.
Tell that to the Meriden mother whose 17 year old daughter hanged herself in their garage in November of 2000.
alwaysright
09-27-2008, 02:52 PM
The definition of a racist is one who has hatred or intolerance for another race or other races. We are NOT all racists, and it's sad you think it's the case.
You're correct when you state that we can't demote or fire every professional in the USA for racism. I'm not concerned about every one. I'm concerned about the ones that may interact with my friends or family.
Stan Zajac is a good officer, who did a bad thing. He has the opportunity to learn from it, and move on, and I wish him well.
The Department had an obligation to the citizens of Meriden to deal with this directly and decisively, which they did. You often come across as a cop-groupie who believes they can do no wrong, and should be given free reign to do as they wish. I prefer a group of professionals, not a bunch of outlaw renegades who have no standards.
good officer or not- they should maybe tase him like they tased that unfortunate, mentally unstable guy at Community Towers.
I can appreciate that as an emotional reaction, but it's not much of a solution. I like the NAACP's idea of having him work with the community he spoke so poorly about. There are plenty of minorities who will be willing to help him realize why those words were so hurtful. Unfortunately, there are also minorities who will use the situation to try and get away with more criminal activity. A good officer will be able to see the difference.
cherrybarbs
10-15-2008, 09:38 PM
Someone wrote when the economy gets bad so does crime, there’s some truth to that statement, street muggings and other crimes are rising. I heard one call come the other day, a man was robbed at gun point between Liberty and Broad street, 3 suspects took his money and last I heard Police were able to catch 2 of them using a K9. Now that were in another recession I’m wondering if people would like the idea of getting a text message or a email alert from the Police dept. saying something like that a crime has been commented near ? Street and Police need your help in finding so-so. I don’t know how many of you recall what crime was like in Meriden in the late 80’s & early 90’s?
cherrybarbs
10-16-2008, 04:15 PM
Latest Headlines 10/16/08
One in custody, two sought after armed robbery
Thank you Jason Vallee of the Record-Journal staff for keep us informed, we would have never have known about that latest armed robbery.
madundertaker
10-16-2008, 09:08 PM
good officer or not- they should maybe tase him like they tased that unfortunate, mentally unstable guy at Community Towers.
I'd like to see you put on a uniform and patrol the streets of Meriden. The police that tasered that man in the Towers had no choice but to do that. He was a risk to the officers and to everyone around them. They did what they were trained to do. It was unfortunate that the man died, but think of the people who he mave have harmed or even killed. The autopsy report showed he had a previous medical condition that may have killed him. As far as Officer Zajzc is concerned, he is one of the best there is. He made a mistake and has paid for his mistake. It sounds to me that you could use a good tazing to set your mind straight. Go on a ride along with the cops and see how they have to work. My dad was a cop for 40 years. 30 years ago, he had to shot and kill a man who was going to run him over with his car. To this day it bothers him that he had to that. But he had no choice. He had to save himself and two other officers who would not be here today. Thinkl before you speak, Always Dumb!!!!
madundertaker
10-16-2008, 09:25 PM
good officer or not- they should maybe tase him like they tased that unfortunate, mentally unstable guy at Community Towers.
The next time the Meriden Police offer that citizens class at the Police Department, do yourself a favor and SIGN UP!! You'll see first hand what these men and women do. I hope you never have to call them for help. Maybe if you are lucky, you'll get to feel how a tazer works, BRO!!!!
30 years ago, he had to shot and kill a man who was going to run him over with his car. To this day it bothers him that he had to that. But he had no choice. He had to save himself and two other officers who would not be here today.
You're correct, it was a justified shooting, but those of us who were around then, know what happened in Meriden shortly afterwards. That's why I would prefer to see Zajac work WITH the NAACP. I agree, he made a mistake, but unless people see him make some attempts to learn from it, there will be hard feelings in the community. We can't afford a repeat of those days.
madundertaker
10-17-2008, 08:29 AM
You're correct, it was a justified shooting, but those of us who were around then, know what happened in Meriden shortly afterwards. That's why I would prefer to see Zajac work WITH the NAACP. I agree, he made a mistake, but unless people see him make some attempts to learn from it, there will be hard feelings in the community. We can't afford a repeat of those days.
I remember all to well what happened afterwards. Death threats, and having to look over your shoulder all of the time, was no fun. I agree with you, Officer Zajac does need to do something with the African-American community to help make peace. But something from BOTH SIDES needs to be done, that includes the black community also! I certinally do not want a repeat of what happened back then and I'm sure Meriden does not want to either.
alwaysright
10-17-2008, 09:21 AM
I'd like to see you put on a uniform and patrol the streets of Meriden. The police that tasered that man in the Towers had no choice but to do that. He was a risk to the officers and to everyone around them. They did what they were trained to do. It was unfortunate that the man died, but think of the people who he mave have harmed or even killed. The autopsy report showed he had a previous medical condition that may have killed him. As far as Officer Zajzc is concerned, he is one of the best there is. He made a mistake and has paid for his mistake. It sounds to me that you could use a good tazing to set your mind straight. Go on a ride along with the cops and see how they have to work. My dad was a cop for 40 years. 30 years ago, he had to shot and kill a man who was going to run him over with his car. To this day it bothers him that he had to that. But he had no choice. He had to save himself and two other officers who would not be here today. Thinkl before you speak, Always Dumb!!!!
if zajac was any good they would have not demoted the racist pig.
and how about that "Safe" downtown area where two violent assaults occurred this week. send in zajac- or reinstate your old man and maybe he can kill again.
I've been pretty outspoken here about what Zajac said, but I don't agree that a single comment equates to being a racist pig. I've been involved in teaching racial diversity classes. You'd be surprised at how often the "light bulb' will go on, and someone will realize that words hurt. People who honestly believed they were NOT racist, said some hurtful things. Others, who were EXTREMELY racist, were smart enough not to say a word. No one but Zajac truly knows what's in his heart, and actions speak louder than words.
Screaming out that he's nothing but a racist pig certainly won't help anything.
As for downtown? Two assaults aren't exactly a crime spree!
S_Meriden60
10-17-2008, 11:47 AM
Anyone who personally knows Stan Zajac knows he is not a racist. The Record Journal did not report the facts correctly. Where's "Factsonly" when you need him.
Since when to they subject officers to polygraphs during internal affairs investigations? The only polygraph he had to take was during the initial hiring process, and that proves nothing. Every officer in CT must take one prior to being hired. Since everyone passes (or they wouldn't be hired) how can you explain police corruption, officers getting arrested for drugs, domestics, and other crimes? The polygraph is merely a tool, not a crystal ball.
S_Meriden60
10-17-2008, 05:06 PM
Since everyone passes (or they wouldn't be hired) how can you explain police corruption, officers getting arrested for drugs, domestics, and other crimes? The polygraph is merely a tool, not a crystal ball.
I'm not going to argue with you over this. Not everyone passes a polygraph.
I personnally know someone who gives tests on a regular basis.
You can believe what you want and post what you want. There are two sides to every story and you will mostly hear or read only one side on the news, Internet and newspapers. Especially on this website.
Most cops are good cops. I was brought up to respect them and their authority. I've never had a problem with them. They go to work everyday knowing it could be their last.
With all the problems we have with crime in the country, why do we continue to look at law enforcement with disgust.
They're the good guys, or have you forgot.
alwaysright
10-17-2008, 05:07 PM
Since when to they subject officers to polygraphs during internal affairs investigations? The only polygraph he had to take was during the initial hiring process, and that proves nothing. Every officer in CT must take one prior to being hired. Since everyone passes (or they wouldn't be hired) how can you explain police corruption, officers getting arrested for drugs, domestics, and other crimes? The polygraph is merely a tool, not a crystal ball.
as one who has... I can say that anyone with true control over their nerves- and who believes that he/she is always right, you can lie and not get caught with a polygraph. all you have to do is think that the person giving the test is below you, and thus, able to be lied to- and voila! you beat it.
we are lucky that our newest police chief is beyond reproach- honest, well liked, intelligent and fair. He did THE RIGHT THING by demoting zajac.
Not once did I disrespect police officers in this forum, so I'm not sure where that came from. I simply expect our officers to be professional. Is that such an awful thing to ask of them?
I get tired of hearing people defend bad behavior merely because an officer's job is so difficult.
madundertaker
10-17-2008, 06:49 PM
if zajac was any good they would have not demoted the racist pig.
and how about that "Safe" downtown area where two violent assaults occurred this week. send in zajac- or reinstate your old man and maybe he can kill again.
You know what I like about you? The fact that when you have nothing intelligent to say, you'll spew out some dumb retoric that makes you seem smart. And I use "smart" loosely. All you have done on this website is make yourself look like an idiot! You know nothing about nothing! My father saved two lives that night! He did what he was supposed to do. When he started his shift, he had no idea that he would have to take someone's life. He does not regret what he had to do, but does feel bad that it had to be done. I truly hope someday you will pull your head out of your back side and understand what life is really about. Someday maybe we'll sit down and have a nice conversation on your lack of common sense and intelligence. I hope you will never have to call the police to help you.
madundertaker
10-17-2008, 06:54 PM
as one who has... I can say that anyone with true control over their nerves- and who believes that he/she is always right, you can lie and not get caught with a polygraph. all you have to do is think that the person giving the test is below you, and thus, able to be lied to- and voila! you beat it.
we are lucky that our newest police chief is beyond reproach- honest, well liked, intelligent and fair. He did THE RIGHT THING by demoting zajac.
True words of wisdom! You never cease to amaze me!
flatrat
10-17-2008, 07:54 PM
as one who has... I can say that anyone with true control over their nerves- and who believes that he/she is always right, you can lie and not get caught with a polygraph. all you have to do is think that the person giving the test is below you, and thus, able to be lied to- and voila! you beat it.
well, its not quite that simple. But with a little training it can easily be beaten. But polygraph is nothing but a black art. That's why its inadmissable in court. Whether or not you "pass" a polygraph is purely the subjective opinion of the examiner.
A polygraph measures stress. No more, no less. Concluding that the stress comes from a lie is not base on science. The great advantage of polygraph as a tool is to get the unsuspecting subject to 'fess up to all sorts of stuff before the wires even go on.
Legendary FBI spies Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen both passed polygraphs.
I roll my eyes when some moron media person refers to it as a "lie detector."
I also am amazed that POST requires expensive polygraphs for all police recruits. Look at how well it has done. (especially in Madison)
More information available at http://antipolygraph.org/
flatrat
10-17-2008, 07:58 PM
Anyone who personally knows Stan Zajac knows he is not a racist. The Record Journal did not report the facts correctly. Where's "Factsonly" when you need him.
who among us has never spontaneously uttered something unfortunate, in poor taste, or offensive?
I for one am not picking up any stones to throw, and my house isn't even glass.
alwaysright
10-18-2008, 11:37 AM
You know what I like about you? The fact that when you have nothing intelligent to say, you'll spew out some dumb retoric that makes you seem smart. And I use "smart" loosely. All you have done on this website is make yourself look like an idiot! You know nothing about nothing! My father saved two lives that night! He did what he was supposed to do. When he started his shift, he had no idea that he would have to take someone's life. He does not regret what he had to do, but does feel bad that it had to be done. I truly hope someday you will pull your head out of your back side and understand what life is really about. Someday maybe we'll sit down and have a nice conversation on your lack of common sense and intelligence. I hope you will never have to call the police to help you.
I don't really care what you think, to start. And common sense? sometimes that does get away from me. Intelligence- I test real well, but my downfall is not caring at all about insulting people for fun, writing quickly dashed off rants without even bothering to spell check just to get under people's(like your) skin. so, a sit down would never be able to happen; because I'm sure we don't hang at the same places-I mean, I NEVER go to the pba or even quality time. and just for the record- had a couple cops in MY family too- just not ones who are trigger happy or racially insulting.
RC12L4
10-18-2008, 12:07 PM
I don't really care what you think, to start. And common sense? sometimes that does get away from me. Intelligence- I test real well, but my downfall is not caring at all about insulting people for fun, writing quickly dashed off rants without even bothering to spell check just to get under people's(like your) skin. so, a sit down would never be able to happen; because I'm sure we don't hang at the same places-I mean, I NEVER go to the pba or even quality time. and just for the record- had a couple cops in MY family too- just not ones who are trigger happy or racially insulting.
I hope your failing health improves.
madundertaker
10-18-2008, 01:44 PM
I hope your failing health improves.
I don't!!!
collie
10-18-2008, 03:34 PM
Will the Record Journal never reign in Alwaysright? I mean really, the forum is not, as Alwaysright describes, a site for insults. By the way, CMT, I'm still waiting, if anyone from the paper ever bothers to check the feedback site, to find out how to remove my membership and Alwaysright with all the insults, barbs and otherwise unkind comments is the reason why. Wonder how long it will be before I get an answer?
alwaysright
10-18-2008, 03:45 PM
Will the Record Journal never reign in Alwaysright? I mean really, the forum is not, as Alwaysright describes, a site for insults. By the way, CMT, I'm still waiting, if anyone from the paper ever bothers to check the feedback site, to find out how to remove my membership and Alwaysright with all the insults, barbs and otherwise unkind comments is the reason why. Wonder how long it will be before I get an answer?
just block me- then my posts won't come up on your screen.
collie
10-18-2008, 06:42 PM
That wouldn't solve this ethical dilemma. I would prefer to get myself voluntarily banned, if that is the only way to end membership, rather than associate myself with a forum that allows such insults and personal attacks.
madundertaker
10-18-2008, 07:03 PM
That wouldn't solve this ethical dilemma. I would prefer to get myself voluntarily banned, if that is the only way to end membership, rather than associate myself with a forum that allows such insults and personal attacks.
Collie, even the mentally challenged have rights to post.
alwaysright
10-18-2008, 07:07 PM
That wouldn't solve this ethical dilemma. I would prefer to get myself voluntarily banned, if that is the only way to end membership, rather than associate myself with a forum that allows such insults and personal attacks.
listen- this is an OPINION forum. If you do not agreee, then either ignore or don't look at it. you can espouse about reparations, what side of the road kids walk on, or anything else on your mind- and I must add that some of YOUR opinions are HIGHLY insulting to me. yet I don't act the crybaby and ask for you to be controlled or censored. I have NEVER threatened anyone. If my opinions threaten you-too bad.
and fun ios what it's all about. this is not rocket science here, little collie, and we are not changing the world OR anyone's opinion. Unless you actually think anyone reads your posts and goes your way suddenly- then... you are truely deluded. so... complain if you must. But even the editor of the RJ has quoted me in his video blogs- so I can't be all that bad. and if I am to you- I do not care. you mean absolutely nothing to my world.
madundertaker
10-18-2008, 07:08 PM
I don't really care what you think, to start. And common sense? sometimes that does get away from me. Intelligence- I test real well, but my downfall is not caring at all about insulting people for fun, writing quickly dashed off rants without even bothering to spell check just to get under people's(like your) skin. so, a sit down would never be able to happen; because I'm sure we don't hang at the same places-I mean, I NEVER go to the pba or even quality time. and just for the record- had a couple cops in MY family too- just not ones who are trigger happy or racially insulting.
What does the PBA and Quality Time have to do with this discussion? Are you insulting the very people who frequent these places? They have nothing to do with this. You just proved my point about how ignorant you really are. If your health is truly failing, it won't be long till I see you, laying on a porcelin table. Boy are we going to have fun!
alwaysright
10-18-2008, 07:11 PM
What does the PBA and Quality Time have to do with this discussion? Are you insulting the very people who frequent these places? They have nothing to do with this. You just proved my point about how ignorant you really are. If your health is truly failing, it won't be long till I see you, laying on a porcelin table. Boy are we going to have fun!
I don't believe in undertakers. I have made my arrangements at UCONN health center for a free burning after they study my decrepid body. I am in terrific health- I'll be here long enough to aggrivate the likes of you for a long long time. and if you take the fact that I don't go to those places as an insult... too bad.
I'm assuming he mentions Quality and the PBA because both are filled with cops and cop groupies, but neither apply to this discussion.
Alwaysright, ONE shooting that was investigated thoroughly and determined justified doesn't make someone "trigger happy".
Making a sport out of not caring for people's feelings will eventually leave you lonely. I honestly hope it's just a sport in this forum. If not, it can't be a pleasant way to live.
alwaysright
10-19-2008, 08:39 AM
I'm assuming he mentions Quality and the PBA because both are filled with cops and cop groupies, but neither apply to this discussion.
Alwaysright, ONE shooting that was investigated thoroughly and determined justified doesn't make someone "trigger happy".
Making a sport out of not caring for people's feelings will eventually leave you lonely. I honestly hope it's just a sport in this forum. If not, it can't be a pleasant way to live.
jma- I know that about the shooting. But, did my statement hit the right buttons or what? that's all I meant to do. I surround myself with lovely people. the ones I want to be with. lonely? hardly- sometimes I need to seek solitude- but sport is exactly what this forum is- quite like shooting fish in a barrel- not to bring up being trigger happy or anything-
I surround myself with lovely people. the ones I want to be with. lonely? hardly- sometimes I need to seek solitude
AH HAH! I knew you had some redeeming qualities!! :D
alwaysright
10-19-2008, 10:25 AM
AH HAH! I knew you had some redeeming qualities!! :D
and I make a mean margarita (but don't drink them) plus my taste in music is groundbreaking. modesty? nope, got none
cherrybarbs
10-30-2008, 10:43 PM
Delinquent kids are throwing eggs at cars on liberty and Parker Street, also on glen hills rd ,teens are putting cheese on cars will update
cherrybarbs
10-30-2008, 11:28 PM
A Mazda is throwing and rocks and eggs between Sherman and Warren street, police may have got A mazda car on Pratt street that was disbo. Police are also checking 4 Delinquents be hide Qualitytime for the same crime.
cherrybarbs
10-31-2008, 12:01 AM
Do you think the media should have breaking news like this? also we had tonight many break-ins and other crimes, so much I cant keep up, I don’t know how our finest Police force do it?
RC12L4
10-31-2008, 12:57 AM
Do you think the media should have breaking news like this? also we had tonight many break-ins and other crimes, so much I cant keep up, I don’t know how our finest Police force do it?
Why do you want to pump constant negativity in to you home/life/brain?
alwaysright
10-31-2008, 08:52 AM
Oh golly- hope no toilet paper got wasted in the trees.
Broadcasting each and every thing that is happening is ridiculous, and frankly, anyone who sits by a scanner all night long to hear it needs to get a life. Start volunteering at a domestic violence or sexual assault hotline. Do something positive instead of being the town crier.
cherrybarbs
10-31-2008, 06:36 PM
Last night was the 1st time a while I turned on the old scanner, reasons don’t have the time and it makes me sick to hear what’s happing in our community, that why I give our Police department a lot of credit. I heard one Officer say the other day calls to dispatch were back up 20 to 30 per shift, that’s a safety concern for us and them. And no I don’t what to be the city’s news reporter; I can remember a time when crime was a major issue in political campaigns. Look at all the forums and post on this site, crime is still a major factor in people’s lives why because it affects all of us and that jma is a fact! And yes I a strong believer in the [broken windows theory].
I completely agree with the broken window theory. So why isn't anyone screaming for more code enforcement? We worry about calls for service, and how overworked the police are, but no one is mentioning our shrunken code enforcement unit. Why aren't we hammering absentee landlords who allow their homes to turn to crap?
I have volunteered to walk neighborhoods and report code violations (obvious from the sidewalk) to the City They don't want to hear it! The more violations, the more they are "overworked". A strong code enforcment division will bring down calls for service for every other department in the city.
Unless the City is serious about fixing the root of the problem, nothing will change.
Happy
11-02-2008, 01:20 PM
Loved the story about Rosie's in today's paper. Local entrepreneurs doing well through hard work, creativity and initiative. I hope they continue to do well and that other local people and businesses such as Pies On and Castle Craig Players do too. Go Meriden!
cherrybarbs
01-09-2009, 08:20 PM
http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/news_wtnh_Meriden_thieves_neighborhood_20090109180 5 We were victims of this too, one thing we can tell you is don’t trust one news source for your local information and don’t believe any thing the City says about our crime statistics!
RC12L4
01-09-2009, 10:38 PM
http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/news_wtnh_Meriden_thieves_neighborhood_20090109180 5 We were victims of this too, one thing we can tell you is don’t trust one news source for your local information and don’t believe any thing the City says about our crime statistics!
Here's how we handle these problems in Texas
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/Man_shoots_home_invaders_killing_1.html
Snakebite
01-10-2009, 12:00 AM
All public records should be reported in the paper. Especially the police log.
Are there privacy issues or censorship. The public has a right to have that information available and use it as they see fit. Maybe it would be nice to know there are a rash of car breakin or vandalism in your area.
No, pretend its Mayberry.
Jim N
01-10-2009, 07:11 PM
All public records should be reported in the paper. Especially the police log.
No, pretend its Mayberry.
Can't pretend it's Mayberry. Andy and Barney actually arrested people who went to jail. Wow what a concept being punished for a crime.:eek:
cherrybarbs
03-19-2009, 09:20 PM
I believe the video doesn’t show the whole story I see Hernandez trying too get away in reverse, what if he killed your love one doing that, would you still blame Officer Lawlor for protecting the public. Chief Cossette who doesn’t live in Meriden doesn’t understand life in here he gets his high pay check and goes home in Southington. The final outcome is we lost a good Officer and Hernandez is laughing all the way to the bank, knowing he can do whatever he wants next time around .The next time something like this comes up Police Officers are going to shoot and kill then ask questions later, so I would ask these criminal’s what’s better, a good beating or being dead!
I believe the video doesn’t show the whole story I see Hernandez trying too get away in reverse, what if he killed your love one doing that, would you still blame Officer Lawlor for protecting the public. Chief Cossette who doesn’t live in Meriden doesn’t understand life in here he gets his high pay check and goes home in Southington. The final outcome is we lost a good Officer and Hernandez is laughing all the way to the bank, knowing he can do whatever he wants next time around .The next time something like this comes up Police Officers are going to shoot and kill then ask questions later, so I would ask these criminal’s what’s better, a good beating or being dead!
Are you bonkers? This was NOT the act of a good officer. He clearly was out of control. What good officer beats someone with a gun, then DROPS the gun, only to pick it up and resume the beating? I doubt thats a skill taught in the academy. The only reason Hernandez is laughing all the way to the bank is because of the officer. If he waited at his cruiser, and ordered Hernandez out at gunpoint, or better yet, waited for back up, Hernandez would have been arrested, the officer would have kept his job, and the city wouldn't have lost all that money.
cherrybarbs
03-19-2009, 10:20 PM
That’s what I’m saying if a Police Officers engages with the criminal knowing that he or she is being video tape, their not going too give a good beating their just going to shoot and kill. Pat Gaynor, did the same thing on Lewis Avenue, now he’s the union president, in my personal view he was right. It seems everything law enforcement does comes under fire, if we can’t trust law enforcement what else do we have?
That’s what I’m saying if a Police Officers engages with the criminal knowing that he or she is being video tape, their not going too give a good beating their just going to shoot and kill. Pat Gaynor, did the same thing on Lewis Avenue, now he’s the union president, in my personal view he was right. It seems everything law enforcement does comes under fire, if we can’t trust law enforcement what else do we have?
I'm confused as to how you can refer to this officer as a "good officer". He lied about the chase. He brutally beat a suspect. What was good about anything he did? I doubt the video had anything to do with the officers behavior. He knew damn well he was being filmed. It didn't matter. He lost it, and acted like a thug. Gaynor shot that guy in broad daylight, with several witnesses. Gaynor wasn't in a rage, or trying to punish the guy. He backed up repeatedly until he couldn't. Then he shot the guy. Did Lawlor back up?? No way--he ran at this guy with the intent on teaching him a lesson. You can't compare the two.
S_Meriden60
03-20-2009, 02:52 PM
I wonder why only one officer was charged when the video shows more than just Lawler striking the suspect.
I wonder what provoked him and the others beside the obvious attempt to avoid arrest.
It will be interesting if those details ever are made public.
:confused:
cherrybarbs
03-20-2009, 03:42 PM
I just brought up Officer Gaynor because a lot of people I know thought he was wrong when he shot and killed that man but just like you I agree it was justified. I also agree not every Officer out there is a Saint either. From watching the video I clearly saw Hernandez trying to get away. As for the beating they’re other Officers there, I saw one punch Hernandez in the kidney, if they thought Officer Lawlor was going too far why didn’t they stop him? The tamping with the evidence was not good for Lawlor case it would show a jury he’s guilty of something, also when he told Hernandez that was a light one [beating] didn’t help either. The case I make is Officer Lawlor he could have easily shot and killed this criminal he could have said he was reaching for a weapon, boom dead, desk duty for a few weeks and back on the streets. As for the beating itself, Hernandez could have put both arms out of the window and surrendered, I didn’t see that. You can say Lawlor was mad I don’t know what was in his head we can go though a lot of what ifs there. I know they go though a lot of training and are suppose to be Professional at all times, but Police Officers are human too. I hope we can both agree that Meriden is like a battle field and are Officers put up with a lot of crap from these criminals and last thing we what is too send a message to them its ok to run from the law, run over their feet, break a leg or even kill them and on top of it all, they can collect $$$ too. In my closing I think Officer Lawlor should not have been fired, maybe suspended with more training, as far as I know he had no history of this before? And last R.J. had over 6000 hits for that video and I don’t think there’s whole lot of sympathy for Mr. Hernandez in the public.
S_Meriden60
03-20-2009, 04:01 PM
Cherrybarbs, some good points. I have more symphathy for Lawlor than the suspect. One can never tell how either person will react when put in that type of situation. The officer in question may have had a good arrest record until that night. The suspect's refusal to obey an officer's request certainly added to and escalated the situation.
The video is not going to help the officer's case.
I'm still angry at the suspect who was clearly trying to evade and escape.
That being said, I don't have too much sympathy for the suspect and I'd be willing to bet most people don't.
If you do as your told and cooperate, chances are you won't get injured and neither will anyone else. If you're innocent, the law will still be on your side.
flatrat
03-20-2009, 04:07 PM
Cherrybarbs, some good points. One can never tell how either person will react when put in that type of situation. The officer in question may have had a good arrest record until that night. The suspect's refusal to obey an officer's request certainly added to and escalated the situation.
The video is not going to help the officer's case.
I'm still angry at the suspect who was clearly trying to evade and escape.
That being said, I don't have too much sympathy for the suspect and I'd be willing to bet most people don't.
If you do as your told and cooperate, chances are you won't get injured and neither will anyone else. If you're innocent, the law will still be on your side.
I just saw the video...why did Lawlor rush the car? If the suspect did have a firearm, Lawlor put himself at risk by charging the driver. Why didnt he stay behind cover until other officers arrived, and effect a felony stop at gunpoint?
S_Meriden60
03-20-2009, 04:17 PM
There's no question he crapped out on his training and the video is damming. I wonder what the initial probable cause was to begin with?
Still, If you're stopped or asked to stop, why try to run?
You endanger the lives of everyone involved and probably some bystander too.
I'd bet it's not the first time the suspect had a brush with the law and it probably won't be the last.
Pancho
09-14-2009, 10:40 PM
What's going on tonight in Meriden, its like a free fo all, people speeding, running stop lights,gangs running all over the place, people fighting in the streets and accidents everywhere. Just got back from dinner, from east side of town and that was closed down with Police cars all over with yellow tape up, is their a full moon out or is it just another freak night in the City of Meriden?
pdltoys
10-18-2009, 05:19 PM
Keep in mind that the dispatcher can send an officer to a stabbing in progress, that actually turns out to be nothing. The information the dispatchers receive is often very different than what's actually going on at the scene. I'm sure that if it was truly newsworthy, the R/J would be all over it.
Snakebite
10-20-2009, 09:01 AM
There is no crime in Meriden, we should rename the city Mayberry.
cristinacec
10-29-2009, 08:55 PM
Well another lovely day in Meriden. Both of our cars where broken in last night over on the east side. Keep you eyes open!!!! I most likely saw the scumbags that robbed us the last night. Sunday these guys where walking down the street checking that looked like they where high. They stared at every single house. Never seen them before since we lived here. My neighbor saw them too thought the same thing.
rightwinger
10-31-2009, 03:43 AM
I recommend security cameras no matter where you live. We have two installed at our home connected to a DVR that records 24/7. I can even access the video feed from the internet when we're away from home. They're becoming more affordable and easy to install.
don'tcareattitude
10-31-2009, 11:38 AM
Right wing- you are one paranoid dude. But with that handle I can see why. They are out to get us huh??? It's mostly kids and junkies doing the car breakins- both easy to catch and damage if you can.
I'm a happy left winger- the crooks leave me alone-
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