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rapuda
03-07-2008, 04:46 PM
There is a very strong possibility the democratic nominee will be decided by super delegates. My question to Obama supporters is this.
If Obama has more delegates than Clinton, but Clinton wins the nomination based on the super delegate vote, what will you do in November?
I'll vote for the democratic nominee regardless of it being Obama or Clinton.
collie
03-07-2008, 06:20 PM
I won't vote at all if that's the case.
ringmaster
03-07-2008, 09:17 PM
I'd be very upset, however, I would have to play with the cards that I've been dealt. To give up and not vote at that point would only empower McCain and in my opinion McCain would be just as bad for our country as George Bush.
Modica
03-07-2008, 10:59 PM
Even though I think Hillary is better, I will vote for Obama if he wins the nomination. If you all want McCain then please don't complain about how bad things will get under his administration.
BillCarson436
03-07-2008, 11:01 PM
Hello...
I understand why an Obama " fan " would not support Hillary.
But... that's because they are NOT thinking of the greater good but of
their personal...feelings.
In my case... I believe we need an experienced person running this
country, and in order of experience I line them up like this....
#1 Clinton
#2 McCain
there is no third choice.
It's not Dancing with the Stars...or American Idol. That's why kids shouldn't
have the right to vote... they think it's a game.
catnap
03-10-2008, 04:40 PM
I'm behind Obama right now - and if Hillary win the nomination - of course I'll vote for her - I'm a Democrat :)
Modica
03-10-2008, 07:04 PM
But many Obama supporters will not vote for Hillary, which means the United States will have another 4 years of failed Republican policies.
I'm behind Obama 100%. That said, my dislike for McCain is greater than my dislike for Hillary. I'll hope for Obama, but will settle for Hillary.
Don't settle. Don't vote for someone just to make sure the other guy doesn't get in. Don't vote to vote. Do like collie. Either vote because you truly like the candidate's position, or don't vote. This concept of having to vote for someone not matter what, no matter if you like the candidate is nonsense. Vote for someone, not against someone. Just because soldiers died for your right to vote, does not mean you should "settle" for junk. Not voting is vote nonetheless.
rapuda
03-11-2008, 11:49 PM
If people in 2004 followed that advice eds, we most likely wouldn't have had Bush43 for another 4 years. Many people (including democrats) voted for Bush to vote out Kerry. I wonder how those people feel now?
I think it depends on the situation. If you want your party to win, you vote for whoever is nominated by that party. For example. If you feel it's time for the republicans to go, and have the democrats give it a shot this time around, then you vote for whoever is on the democratic ticket. If your choice is no longer on the ballot, and you could care less who runs the country, then you don't need to vote.
There is also the write in ballot. You can write in somebody else if you don't like your choices. I personally would do that before not voting at all. That's just me though.
The party means nothing to how a member of that party will act or otherwise vote. There are conservative Southern Democrats and moderate centrist Republicans. Just look at how McCain is perceived by traditional conservatives. Look at AHnold in CA. Look at our own Democratic team. More conservative than not.
The party is just a label not a machine that pumps out robots all speaking and acting the same way.
Rapuda, I'm embarassed to admit I made that exact mistake. It won't happen again.
collie
03-12-2008, 09:26 PM
Well, I'm not going to feel guilty at all if I sit this one out. Usually I can pick what I feel is the lesser of two evils but to me McCain and Clinton both equally stink big time. Think of it like a lady at a dance - better to sit one out than dance with someone you don't want to.
rapuda
03-12-2008, 10:00 PM
Collie,
If Obama isn't the nominee, (doubtful) why not write him in? That way you voted for your choice, and you can say you voted. I wouldn't consider it a waste of time, I would consider it expressing your opinion.
collie
03-12-2008, 10:17 PM
I do think that's an idea worthy of consideration. Had thought I would do that with Ralph Nadar originally but it just seemed pointless. And knowing Meriden, going to the polls and asking to write in a candidate will probably be a nightmare .... Adding insult to injury, so to speak, they won't know how to do it or something awful and I'll end up filing a complaint with Bysiewicz's office! But to symbolically cast my vote for Obama, I like it!
rapuda
03-17-2008, 01:07 AM
I started this thread because I was curious at what the responses would be. Based on the feedback from this thread and other things I've seen in the news and on the internet, I believe that if Obama has the most delegates but loses due to the super-delegates, that the democrats will lose the next presidential election. I strongly believe that whoever trails in the delegates after all the primaries have been held, should step down. If a candidate becomes the nominee with less delegates then the other, it will hurt the party. I believe if Obama were to lose by super-delegate vote, that a large portion of his supporters would either stay home on election day, vote for Nader, or vote for McCain out of spite.
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